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Re: Hero class, waste of gold? - Benschie - 25-06-2013
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"AHHHH! Its not a liquid, Its a great many pieces of solid matter that form a hard floor like surface!"
there you go spend it on your medical bills after doing what yabu said
Re: Hero class, waste of gold? - Senni - 25-06-2013
Master peltast gets 25 more throwing wpf than the other heros.
And that 1 power throw, it's another 10% more throwing damage.
Re: Hero class, waste of gold? - The Cid - 25-06-2013
(25-06-2013, 11:19 AM)Senni link Wrote: Master peltast gets 25 more throwing wpf than the other heros.
And that 1 power throw, it's another 10% more throwing damage.
These stats seem to make little difference unless player is lucky enough to have twigs. A lot of players including myself, seem to use craftable javs as they have 15 ammo and seem more accurate (head shots).
Re: Hero class, waste of gold? - Tee - 25-06-2013
10 ammo? That reminds me..
*Subtle reminder that Senni needs to update CTS ammo*
Re: Hero class, waste of gold? - The Cid - 25-06-2013
(25-06-2013, 12:22 PM)Tee link Wrote: 10 ammo? That reminds me..
*Subtle reminder that Senni needs to update CTS ammo*
Please be good to us and make it 16 ;D
Re: Hero class, waste of gold? - Maroon - 25-06-2013
(25-06-2013, 01:38 PM)The Cid link Wrote: [quote author=Tee link=topic=15064.msg120440#msg120440 date=1372162946]
10 ammo? That reminds me..
*Subtle reminder that Senni needs to update CTS ammo*
Please be good to us and make it 16 ;D
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Considering the CTS' very capable melee, 14 would be more balanced, imo.
Re: Hero class, waste of gold? - Huscarlton Banks - 25-06-2013
If you do the math,
Non-Peltast:
300 wpf = 1.3 multiplier
6 power throw = 1.6 multiplier
1.3 * 1.6 = 2.08
Peltast:
325 wpf = 1.3375 multiplier
7 power throw = 1.7 multiplier
1.3375 * 1.7 = 2.27375
2.27375/2.08 = 1.093....
So the peltast does around ~8-9% more damage per throw compared to non-peltasts, since strength bonuses are added after the multipliers.
I don't think anyone's done a bot by bot comparison of hits to kill thresholds for each throwing weapon though, and that's what's really important.
Re: Hero class, waste of gold? - The Cid - 25-06-2013
(25-06-2013, 03:26 PM)Huscarlton Banks link Wrote: So the peltast does around ~8-9% more damage per throw compared to non-peltasts, since strength bonuses are added after the multipliers.
Not a lot is it? especially playing on ragnarok mode, I though hero classes were going to be "very powerful" ????
Re: Hero class, waste of gold? - Murrow - 25-06-2013
(25-06-2013, 08:42 AM)Yabu link Wrote: There sir, you are completely wrong.
Had 5 mill twice this past few months and I turned it all into goodies I can play with and the new hero classes
Re: Hero class, waste of gold? - Huscarlton Banks - 25-06-2013
Meh, like I said:
Quote:I don't think anyone's done a bot by bot comparison of hits to kill thresholds for each throwing weapon though, and that's what's really important.
It doesn't matter if the percent difference is tiny, if it's enough to bring down an enemy in one less hit than it normally would take.
That and we're not done with hero gear in general anyway.