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RE: 1.9.1 Client Release - PioPio - 02-03-2018
(02-03-2018, 06:25 AM)Winter Wrote: Hello NI community,
- Heavy Sturmhaube -1 weight
- Heavy Sturmhuabe +1 weight
5char
RE: 1.9.1 Client Release - Winter - 02-03-2018
(02-03-2018, 08:13 AM)PioPio Wrote:(02-03-2018, 06:25 AM)Winter Wrote: Hello NI community,
- Heavy Sturmhaube -1 weight
- Heavy Sturmhuabe +1 weight
5char
I wonder how that got there....
RE: 1.9.1 Client Release - El_Jefe - 02-03-2018
woooo awesome thanks!
RE: 1.9.1 Client Release - Tjav - 02-03-2018
still think Volundr needs a buff in some way, both the Bidenhander and Runic Greatsword outperform it completely, if they are meant to be the same, then the VGS should have either some more dmg, or some speed.
RE: 1.9.1 Client Release - Thunderstorm - 02-03-2018
(02-03-2018, 06:50 AM)Winter Wrote:We are talking about a red legendary and not a orange it has more speed etc but iam not quite sure why you nerfed the pierce of it(02-03-2018, 06:40 AM)Thunderstorm Wrote: I search justice for Ullrs or atleast an explanation why a h craftable is better than a red leg dmg wise
The Ullr's Bane has 5 speed and 5 accuracy more. Its overall DPS still outclasses the Huntress. The difference in stats between these two items is not likely to change any time soon. Hero locked House Craftables are supposed to be similar (or identical) to orange legendary items in stats now. The gap between Legendary items and House Crafted items was too large before, and Hero locked items generally weren't as useful as T4 orange legendary items.
If you really feel the Huntress is the superior item, I'd be happy to swap your Ullr's Bane for a Huntress. I'll even throw in a second Huntress that you can give to a friend.
RE: 1.9.1 Client Release - GrafBlade - 02-03-2018
(02-03-2018, 11:47 AM)Thunderstorm Wrote:(02-03-2018, 06:50 AM)Winter Wrote:We are talking about a red legendary and not a orange it has more speed etc but iam not quite sure why you nerfed the pierce of it(02-03-2018, 06:40 AM)Thunderstorm Wrote: I search justice for Ullrs or atleast an explanation why a h craftable is better than a red leg dmg wise
The Ullr's Bane has 5 speed and 5 accuracy more. Its overall DPS still outclasses the Huntress. The difference in stats between these two items is not likely to change any time soon. Hero locked House Craftables are supposed to be similar (or identical) to orange legendary items in stats now. The gap between Legendary items and House Crafted items was too large before, and Hero locked items generally weren't as useful as T4 orange legendary items.
If you really feel the Huntress is the superior item, I'd be happy to swap your Ullr's Bane for a Huntress. I'll even throw in a second Huntress that you can give to a friend.
What happened to Fiendish and Hurricane then if you nerfed Ullrs to 38p? I know that you put a lot of effort in this item balancing stuff, but did you consider that Ullrs is Hero-Locked as well?
Although it is still faster, which is kinda significant for me as I like fast ranged weapons, 38p for a red legendary bow is poor. What happened to Tempest, Typhoon and Stag Bow? Did they get a nerf as well?
Yes, I'm interested in this as I have an Ullrs Bane as well, I paid a decent amount of gold for it and yes, I'm worried about a sharp fall of its price/value, seeing my spent gold dissipating in nothing right now.
RE: 1.9.1 Client Release - Corrndog - 02-03-2018
(02-03-2018, 01:03 PM)GrafBlade Wrote:Tempest and Typhoon should stay the same. Hurricane and Stag got 1 dmg buff(02-03-2018, 11:47 AM)Thunderstorm Wrote:(02-03-2018, 06:50 AM)Winter Wrote:We are talking about a red legendary and not a orange it has more speed etc but iam not quite sure why you nerfed the pierce of it(02-03-2018, 06:40 AM)Thunderstorm Wrote: I search justice for Ullrs or atleast an explanation why a h craftable is better than a red leg dmg wise
The Ullr's Bane has 5 speed and 5 accuracy more. Its overall DPS still outclasses the Huntress. The difference in stats between these two items is not likely to change any time soon. Hero locked House Craftables are supposed to be similar (or identical) to orange legendary items in stats now. The gap between Legendary items and House Crafted items was too large before, and Hero locked items generally weren't as useful as T4 orange legendary items.
If you really feel the Huntress is the superior item, I'd be happy to swap your Ullr's Bane for a Huntress. I'll even throw in a second Huntress that you can give to a friend.
What happened to Fiendish and Hurricane then if you nerfed Ullrs to 38p? I know that you put a lot of effort in this item balancing stuff, but did you consider that Ullrs is Hero-Locked as well?
Although it is still faster, which is kinda significant for me as I like fast ranged weapons, 38p for a red legendary bow is poor. What happened to Tempest, Typhoon and Stag Bow? Did they get a nerf as well?
Yes, I'm interested in this as I have an Ullrs Bane as well, I paid a decent amount of gold for it and yes, I'm worried about a sharp fall of its price/value, seeing my spent gold dissipating in nothing right now.
RE: 1.9.1 Client Release - DR. - 02-03-2018
Stag
Speed rating
82
Thrust damage
43
Shoot speed
60
Accuracy
115
Typoon
Speed rating
82
Thrust damage
46
Shoot speed
62
Accuracy
120
stats should be the same difference between
Line one
(more p) h-bow -> stag -> typoon
(faster) f-bow -> ullrs -> temp
Line two
(crafted) SS -> ebony/elmwood/kings will -> huntress
RE: 1.9.1 Client Release - Winter - 02-03-2018
(02-03-2018, 11:47 AM)Thunderstorm Wrote: We are talking about a red legendary and not a orange it has more speed etc but iam not quite sure why you nerfed the pierce of it
I am aware. I was explaining why the Huntress, a bow commonly being referenced in this discussion, is as strong as it is compared to the Ullr's Bane. As you said, it has more speed. That is why the damage went down. The overall DPS against most bots actually went up from this change.
(02-03-2018, 01:03 PM)GrafBlade Wrote: I know that you put a lot of effort in this item balancing stuff, but did you consider that Ullrs is Hero-Locked as well?
Yes. The Ullr's Bane still outclasses both the Hurricane and Fiendish Bow.
(02-03-2018, 09:26 AM)Tjav Wrote: still think Volundr needs a buff in some way, both the Bidenhander and Runic Greatsword outperform it completely, if they are meant to be the same, then the VGS should have either some more dmg, or some speed.
The Bidenhander has 1 additional speed due to having 9 length less than the Ancient Great Sword, and overall DPS parsing found none of these three items to consistently out-DPS the other against any boss and negligible difference against non-bosses (damage threshholds aside, in which case the extra speed of the Volundr should make up for this as it can kill the weaker ones at a faster rate due to swing speed). The Runic has 2 additional speed over the Volundr Greatsword for 21 length less. Overall DPS parsing did not find them to have significantly different results (.1 seconds or less difference on average in kill time against bosses, negligible difference on non bosses). Remember that longer weapons have an easier time getting significant speed bonus / sweet spot modifiers.
RE: 1.9.1 Client Release - DR. - 02-03-2018
So question if Leather Overmail, Def and Checkered Heavy Lamellar gets lighter why did Gilded Bear Armour stay the same?