(03-02-2015, 10:26 PM)Soviet link Wrote: These quote fails are making me cry

(03-02-2015, 11:51 PM)Mr Killer link Wrote: In my opinion legionnaires already have enough gear and stuff to choose from when you compare it to other hero classes such as ranger who only gets one new armor and 2 new bows and arrows to choose from (which are usable by every archer hero class). Or when it is compared to an hero class such as Aventurier who only gets 4 new swords to choose from while legionnaire gets 6 new swords, 4 new throwables (not including the bad ones), but also has access to the second best armor in the game for swadians. My point being that legionnaire has a lot to choose from already unlike some other hero classes.

If there was to be a new armor implemented for legionnaire then I would say it should be lighter but with less armor as already said here. My question would be how would it help legionnaires though? If you were to get lighter armor it may help throwing accuracy (don't know if there is armor weight penalties on wpf in this mod or if there isnt any), it wouldn't help you when you attack the nords outside the cades that much because although it would let you backpedal faster you ballistamen would do more damage to you and most of the times you run out there you are the only one and you will most likely die. Running out there with a team however it would not help you to have less body armor since it would be more likely to be 1-2 hit rather than 2-3 hit by nords (depending on the gamemode).

A place where the lighter armor would help you would be when you are soloing which I thought was supposed to be destroyed as this is a teamwork game. I myself may and probably am wrong on some of this stuff as I have never played legionnaire before but I have seen many people play the class and I myself as a Royal Guard have done some of the things legionnaires sometimes do (getting nords into melee, mobile shieldwalling, etc.). I believe an new armor for legionnaire is not needed nor would it help the class in fighting with a team.

(04-02-2015, 12:08 AM)Looter link Wrote: The throwable situation is the same with the above mentioned one with archers and bows, they only get the same stuff a pikeman hero could use yet with even less skill than a t4 archer using a heroes dropped gear, which doesn't help its situation

(04-02-2015, 12:03 AM)Woodz link Wrote: [quote author=Mr Killer link=topic=39211.msg218865#msg218865 date=1423007462]
In my opinion legionnaires already have enough gear and stuff to choose from when you compare it to other hero classes such as ranger who only gets one new armor and 2 new bows and arrows to choose from (which are usable by every archer hero class). Or when it is compared to an hero class such as Aventurier who only gets 4 new swords to choose from while legionnaire gets 6 new swords, 4 new throwables (not including the bad ones), but also has access to the second best armor in the game for swadians. My point being that legionnaire has a lot to choose from already unlike some other hero classes.

If there was to be a new armor implemented for legionnaire then I would say it should be lighter but with less armor as already said here. My question would be how would it help legionnaires though? If you were to get lighter armor it may help throwing accuracy (don't know if there is armor weight penalties on wpf in this mod or if there isnt any), it wouldn't help you when you attack the nords outside the cades that much because although it would let you backpedal faster you ballistamen would do more damage to you and most of the times you run out there you are the only one and you will most likely die. Running out there with a team however it would not help you to have less body armor since it would be more likely to be 1-2 hit rather than 2-3 hit by nords (depending on the gamemode).

A place where the lighter armor would help you would be when you are soloing which I thought was supposed to be destroyed as this is a teamwork game. I myself may and probably am wrong on some of this stuff as I have never played legionnaire before but I have seen many people play the class and I myself as a Royal Guard have done some of the things legionnaires sometimes do (getting nords into melee, mobile shieldwalling, etc.). I believe an new armor for legionnaire is not needed nor would it help the class in fighting with a team.

(04-02-2015, 12:08 AM)Looter link Wrote: Legionaire gets pikeman throwing weapons and a now small selection of swords ever since its swords were given to buff other classes, reducing its variety plus the fact it currently gets no new armors/shields, that In my opinion is not enough. The throwable situation is the same with the above mentioned one with archers and bows, they only get the same stuff a pikeman hero could use yet with even less skill than a t4 archer using a heroes dropped gear, which doesn't help its situation. Adding some light armor would add variety and getting it would be personal preference, not harm the players who like to grind away on hard/ragnorok, they can keep their heavy armor if they like.

(04-02-2015, 12:24 AM)Mr Killer link Wrote: [quote author=Woodz link=topic=39211.msg218866#msg218866 date=1423008233]
[quote author=Mr Killer link=topic=39211.msg218865#msg218865 date=1423007462]
In my opinion legionnaires already have enough gear and stuff to choose from when you compare it to other hero classes such as ranger who only gets one new armor and 2 new bows and arrows to choose from (which are usable by every archer hero class). Or when it is compared to an hero class such as Aventurier who only gets 4 new swords to choose from while legionnaire gets 6 new swords, 4 new throwables (not including the bad ones), but also has access to the second best armor in the game for swadians. My point being that legionnaire has a lot to choose from already unlike some other hero classes.

If there was to be a new armor implemented for legionnaire then I would say it should be lighter but with less armor as already said here. My question would be how would it help legionnaires though? If you were to get lighter armor it may help throwing accuracy (don't know if there is armor weight penalties on wpf in this mod or if there isnt any), it wouldn't help you when you attack the nords outside the cades that much because although it would let you backpedal faster you ballistamen would do more damage to you and most of the times you run out there you are the only one and you will most likely die. Running out there with a team however it would not help you to have less body armor since it would be more likely to be 1-2 hit rather than 2-3 hit by nords (depending on the gamemode).

A place where the lighter armor would help you would be when you are soloing which I thought was supposed to be destroyed as this is a teamwork game. I myself may and probably am wrong on some of this stuff as I have never played legionnaire before but I have seen many people play the class and I myself as a Royal Guard have done some of the things legionnaires sometimes do (getting nords into melee, mobile shieldwalling, etc.). I believe an new armor for legionnaire is not needed nor would it help the class in fighting with a team.

(04-02-2015, 12:08 AM)Looter link Wrote: Legionaire gets pikeman throwing weapons and a now small selection of swords ever since its swords were given to buff other classes, reducing its variety plus the fact it currently gets no new armors/shields, that In my opinion is not enough. The throwable situation is the same with the above mentioned one with archers and bows, they only get the same stuff a pikeman hero could use yet with even less skill than a t4 archer using a heroes dropped gear, which doesn't help its situation. Adding some light armor would add variety and getting it would be personal preference, not harm the players who like to grind away on hard/ragnorok, they can keep their heavy armor if they like.