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Buff for (in)justice? - [ASSASSINE] - 10-07-2013
so this weapon is pretty good, but short though. How about giving it a length buff of maybe 10 or 15? would be fair because of its crafting costs of ~ 6 mio ( based on K4mis spreadsheet)
Re: Length buff for (in)justice? - Yvain - 10-07-2013
This would need a new model for these swords. There are already some long weapons, and asking for such a buff is not relevant in my opinion.
Re: Length buff for (in)justice? - -Perception- - 10-07-2013
Boredom strikes again!
Looks retarded, right? So leave it as it is.. (Or maybe I've just exaggerated a bit..)
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Re: Length buff for (in)justice? - Leturoa - 10-07-2013
some weapons when they get longer are not as useful in close range. Sarrisa is an example of this. You need to spin to put more speed behind the thrust otherwise it does no damage and opens you to attack. The thrust attacks on two handers are already risky at close range, with the weapon being longer it is less likely to interrupt attacks. So you will need to rely on the swings more and they take longer to hit anyway. So you could easily get spammed by a huscarl in close range and you would be almost powerless to stop it
Re: Length buff for (in)justice? - Mimer - 10-07-2013
more spd or dmg
Re: Length buff for (in)justice? - Murrow - 10-07-2013
http://forum.nordinvasion.com/index.php?topic=14042.0.html
Re: Length buff for (in)justice? - Maroon - 10-07-2013
Stats atm:
Damage: 55 Cut, 40 Pierce
Speed: 95
Length: 118
Weight: 2.75
Useable By: Commando
Those stats make for a great 2 hander. It might not be as long as the others, but it's damage and speed are high-end enough, considering it's competitors.
No need to change it, imo.
Re: Length buff for (in)justice? - bossculeur - 11-07-2013
Maroon, the boarding axe has more damage (57 iirc) and speed (97?) with around 10 less length. I could be wrong on the values because I can't find the exact values on the forums. Either way the ba's crafting cost is at least 5mil less and it is quite arguably better. That sounds like justification for a buff to me.
Re: Length buff for (in)justice? - Maroon - 11-07-2013
The Boarding is only one other option when it comes to 2 handers. Axes will always have more cut damage than their greatsword equivalent, and even more than higher grade greatswords, but it does not have the option to use a superlong stab of 40p, which, for comparison, is about as strong as an arrow from a Sniper.
Re: Length buff for (in)justice? - Benschie - 12-07-2013
I have to agree here, I have been using the Injustice for the last week now and I have to say it is a bit lackluster and it's a HELL of alot more money for this weapon over the boarding axe for just a few more length.... the butcher I think is a more sound investment
anyway lets bring up the stats for all 3 weapons
Boarding Axe
Itemstats:
Type: 2H Weapon
Difficulty 1
Weight 3
Swing damage 57c
Thrust damage
Speed rating 97
Weapon length 104
Bonus Bonus against Shields
Estimated price Min-Max: 254.7k - 392.6k Gold
Butcher
Itemstats:
Type: 2H Weapon
Difficulty 11
Weight 3
Swing damage 60c
Thrust damage
Speed rating 102
Weapon length 93
Bonus
Estimated price Min-Max: 253k - 387.8k Gold
Injustice
Itemstats:
Type: 2H Weapon
Difficulty 10
Weight 2.75
Swing damage 55c
Thrust damage 40p
Speed rating 95
Weapon length 118
Bonus
Estimated price Min-Max: 5.3m - 6.6m Gold
The only thing the injustice has going for it is its length as we can see but the damage and the speed on the cheaper weapons beats the injustice hands down.
At the moment this weapon is not worth its value as you can see by the stats, As some 300-400k weapons outshine over a 5m weapon by quite a bit at the expense of a tiny bit of length.
Also IMO the extra 14/25 length on this weapon is negligible due to the fact it can still barely reach through friendly troops and you will always need to be in a good position on the shield wall to use it the same as the other 2 weapons (you can reach nords a bit further away in the shield wall but its pointless as the nords will be up against the shields in 1-2 more seconds anyway)
long post :
*Edit: Also buff the EK!
