Master Peltast Weapon - Printable Version

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Master Peltast Weapon - -Perception- - 29-08-2013

After some considerations curiosity got the better of me today, whereupon I decided to finally become master peltast.
Once the enormous amount of gold was spent, I excitedly made my way to the marketplace to check for terrific new throwing weapons, but, alas, it was to no avail.

I am pretty sure I am not the only one disappointed by that, (yeye, get lost search function.. Tongue

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thus I decided to create the following, and give it away for free use:
(Would be awesome if it really were to serve the purpose recommended by me.. Wink

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Screenshot

Download

For feedback, PM me.

Re: Master Peltast Weapon - Unknown_Soldier - 29-08-2013

They can use very heavy throwing axes. They are pretty good and great in melee also.

Re: Master Peltast Weapon - -Perception- - 29-08-2013

VHTA cost about 2m, ever thought about it that most people cant afford that?

Also, most hero classes gain access to some semi-awesome items on the marketplace, like bannerguard shield for royal guards, but as master peltast absolutely nothing is added.

Re: Master Peltast Weapon - Ragnash - 29-08-2013

Master Peltast has more than some other hero classes... some have next to nothing.

I am sure they will look over the missing items for hero classes in coming patches.

Re: Master Peltast Weapon - Unknown_Soldier - 29-08-2013

Yes exactly what he said. I would be happy with the extra skills they get for now.

Re: Master Peltast Weapon - iBlue - 29-08-2013

i like the model.
Maybe too good to be a marketplace item Smile

Re: Master Peltast Weapon - Tajulek - 29-08-2013

(29-08-2013, 11:12 AM)iBlue link Wrote:i like the model.

Re: Master Peltast Weapon - Usain_Bolt - 17-10-2013

I was thinking about adding some weapons that would increase skirmishers usefunlness for a team, beyond doubling infantry in slashing or archers/crossbowmen in shooting. The idea is to give skirmishers a secondary throwing weapon, that would be designed to either support other players (other than doing dmg that is) or used only in a very specific situation. You couldn't stack those weapons like regular throwables, think more of a second support item. That also mean that you couldnt just refill them and have to sacrifice one 4 availble weapon slots. Here are some examples:

1. Bolas

First some pictures so you can see what i'm talking about:

https://www.google.pl/search?q=medieval+combat&client=firefox-a&hs=FkO&rls=org.mozilla:pl:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=NI9fUrfrOYmUhQfIzIGgDA&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1680&bih=922#q=bolas+weapon&rls=org.mozilla:pl%3Aofficial&tbm=isch

And some wiki to read, if you want to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolas

Basically i'm talking about throwing weapon with a solid knock-down ability (say 90 %), and large hitbox (easy to aim) that would do next to no damage (like 1 blunt) and come in limited numbers (5 or 8).

Imagine a situation where:
a) a teammate is running away from an enemy but he isn't fast enough to outrun him. You could just kill the mob if he is some poor peasant with a frying pan, but what if he's an entranced berserk?
b) where a whole team is running past some tough mobs and there simply isn't enough time to kill them off as more are chasing us.

You could use bolas and either buy enough time for that poor fella from ex. a) or team from ex. b)

2. Shield destroyer

There are some enemies that comes with a really sturdy shields like fatsods or juggs. What if you could throw a weapon that would destroy their shields in 1 or 2 hits so slashers/other ranged could kill them faster? That weapon would do little damage in general, but have multiplied bonus agains shields.

Here are some pictures of how such a weapon could looks like:
http://www.google.pl/imgres?start=145&client=firefox-a&hs=voj&rls=org.mozilla:pl:official&biw=1680&bih=922&tbm=isch&tbnid=wVXJLG5t4MmH3M:&imgrefurl=http://www.swordforum.com/forums/showthread.php%3F84580-Post-your-current-Collection/page5&docid=oQ1reZ3UruX4RM&imgurl=http://koti.mbnet.fi/wfan/kuvat/v-aseet23.jpg&w=700&h=490&ei=WZVfUrXrNuLW4ATsjYGQBQ&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:45,s:100,i:139&iact=rc&page=5&tbnh=188&tbnw=268&ndsp=39&tx=109&ty=51

3. Smoke bomb

Similar to what Royal Torturer has. Again - very low damage, woefully inaccurate, rather limited numbers and area stun effect. Think about ewhen someone kills that last bot in the very wrong moment. Skirmishers instantly set off to slow down incoming waves to buy enough time so rest of the team can build/improve a barricade.

4. Weapon with short to medium range and high angle of lob

Except for some situations where you simply want to lob projectile over wall/building/etc. there are two more uses where this weapon could come handy:

a) bot got stuck behind a wall where it's impossible or very hard to kill him (like sometimes happen on kings reach)
b) bot was spawned partially underground and can't be hit by other means. I recall three such cases - two on swadian bay and one on swadian town. With no way to finish the wave people just left the server. Some good "lobba" could just do the job and get the game back on track.

5. Boomerang

I hope you guys don't really think that hunting or war boomerangs return to thrower Smile

I'm thinking about a weapon that could be used from behind some corner. You could change the side of an angle with alternative fire button: default setting would be a right-to-left angle and alternative a left-to-right angle.

6. Ad-hoc barricade

Something went really wrong and your team needs some barricades right now, even if only provisional. You could deploy stakes, buy throwing or placing them, but they would only stand 1-3 hits until broken and you could only pack 5 of them.

7. Nets

Similar to 1. or 3. this weapon would just slow one enemy down for a period of time instead of knocking him down - so he can still shoot or attack.

In general i tend to believe that skirmisher should be more of what it really was: a fast moving, fast thinking support troop that relies more on his cunning than armor, with his main function in slowing down the incoming enemies or picking the more dangerous off before they can do harm.

I wish i could show you models of weapons i've mentioned, but i simply have no clue how to make them. I'm not sure if all those feature could be implemented in game. I'm also not mentioning stats as i don't think i have enough experience to balance them properly.

Re: Master Peltast Weapon - The Cid - 19-10-2013

Some great ideas there, Mr Bolt Smile

Re: Master Peltast Weapon - Yvain - 19-10-2013

How about throwing lightnings ?

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