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A couple of even More Ideas - Green_Dragon - 20-01-2018

It's been some time I thought about this and it's quite a list I have to say, but...tell me what you think:

Some improvements for the webpage:
-Make it possible to sell bunches of mats cheaper again and optional to sell per piece
-Open up Trade (Sending of Trade Invites no longer depending on House-Membership)

Quests:
- Make quests like Prime Slayer and Legacy bot-number-depending and have them giving the same high
rewards in relation to this number.

Beginner:
Dat Club:400G->1000G
Farmland Demolition: 250G-->500G
Get Back in the Kitchen:-->1000G
Peasant Envy:25 Nord Peasant-->15 Nord Peasant, 500G-->1000G
Serf's up: 42 Nord Serf-->20 Nord Serf, 1000G-->2000G
Working Class Problems: 30 Nord Peasant-->15 Nord Peasant, 750G-->1250G

Normal:
Crazy Repeatermen:30 Nord Repeatermen-->20 Nord Repeatermen, 4000G-->5000G, 4days
Angriff! Angriff!:30 Mercenary Zweihander-->20 Mercenary Zweihander, 4000G-->5000G, 4 days
Collecting Heads: Bot Number to 5, 4000G-->10000G, include Light Infantry and Thegn, 5 days
In it for the Long Haul I:2500 Nord Conscript-->500 Nord Conscript, 750 Nord Infantry-->300 Nord Infantry,
1000 Nord Militia-->400 Nord Militia, +750 Nord Recruit, +500 Nord Soldier,
50000G-->500000G, 7 days
Heads, Spikes, Walls:24 Hired Assassin-->1000 Hired Assassin, Reward: Heavy Bear Hood/Tracker Hood and 2 Sulphur, 7 days
Dodge This!:30 Hired Javelineers--> 15 Hired Javelineers, 500G-->2000G, 3 days
It was said...:35 Swadian Deserter-->20 Swadian Deserter, 1000G-->2000G, 3 days
Dead at the Top: 1 Mercenary Sergeant-->20 Mercenary Sergeant, 500G-->5000G, 14 days
Ignore the Head, Attack the Feet:250G-->1000G, 2 days

Hard:
In it for the Long Haul II:2500 Nord Veteran Pikemen-->500 Nord Veteran Pikemen, 750 Nord Veteran Shock Trooper
--> 200 Nord Veteran Shock Trooper, 1000 Varangian Guard-->200 Varangian Guard
Time to Retire the Veterans & Investigation Time-->Investigating the Veterans:
100 Nord Veteran Pikemen, 100 Nord Veteran Soldier, 50 Eastern Elite Mercenary, 20000G, 3 days
You and Who's Army?: 4 days

Ragnarok:
Besieged!:50 Siege Master-->20 Siege Master
Send Them Back to Valhalla!: 6500G-->10000G
The Artillery Must Be Destroyed!:10000G-->15000G
Congratulations, Minion Killer:25000G-->150000G, no weapon rewards, 1x Lump
Clan Hunter: 30 Wolf Clan Warrior-->5 Wolf Clan Warrior, 5000G-->20000G
End Their Trolling Days:+100 Hired Assassins, +60 Royal Assassins, +200000G

Cavalry:
Eliminate existing quests, make new quests that give an additional impulse to do runs.
Nord Herder no longer in game it seems, so Butcher Work not completable!

Eliminate all Misc. Quests

Loot:
Improve Red Mat Loot as follows:
Lumps now at 60k-->20k-->+3x dropchance
Sulphur now at 90k-->50k-->+2x dropchance
HM now at 7k-->3.5k-->+2x dropchance
Black Steel now at 15k-->7.5k-->+2x dropchance
WoGs, Arrowheads and Raven Feathers are ok.
Damascus now at 150k-->50k-->+3x dropchance
Eagle Feather now at 120k-->20k-->+4x dropchance
Bear Fur now at 25k-->12.5k-->+2x dropchance

Bots that don't drop shit and could be used to drop stuff:
-Nord Heavy Skirmisher: HM
-Vanguard Huscarl: HM, Damascus
-Veteran Huscarl: HM, Lump
-Royal Assassin: Sulphur, Eagle
-Nord Sniper: Eagle, Nord Ranger: Arrowhead
-Juggernaut: Improve existing chances, Damascus
-Ward of Ragnar, Entranced Zercs: Improve existing chances
-Chosen Skirmisher: HM, Eagle
-Whalers of Ragnarok: Bear Fur (as it used to be)
-Nord Shield Maiden: HM, Lump
-Bifrost Guardian: Lump
-Follower of Vanagandr/Skol: Lump, HM, Sulphur
-Thor's/Odin's Chosen: Improve existing chances

RE: A couple of even More Ideas - Midren - 20-01-2018

(20-01-2018, 10:53 AM)Green_Dragon Wrote: Bots that don't drop shit and could be used to drop stuff:
-Nord Heavy Skirmisher: HM
-Vanguard Huscarl: HM, Damascus
-Veteran Huscarl: HM, Lump
-Royal Assassin: Sulphur, Eagle
-Nord Sniper: Eagle, Nord Ranger: Arrowhead
-Juggernaut: Improve existing chances, Damascus
-Ward of Ragnar, Entranced Zercs: Improve existing chances
-Chosen Skirmisher: HM, Eagle
-Whalers of Ragnarok: Bear Fur (as it used to be)
-Nord Shield Maiden: HM, Lump
-Bifrost Guardian: Lump
-Follower of Vanagandr/Skol: Lump, HM, Sulphur
-Thor's/Odin's Chosen: Improve existing chances

This would imply you know drop tables, some of this could be a thing already, drops arent public Smile

RE: A couple of even More Ideas - Green_Dragon - 20-01-2018

(20-01-2018, 10:57 AM)Midren Wrote:
(20-01-2018, 10:53 AM)Green_Dragon Wrote: Bots that don't drop shit and could be used to drop stuff:
-Nord Heavy Skirmisher: HM
-Vanguard Huscarl: HM, Damascus
-Veteran Huscarl: HM, Lump
-Royal Assassin: Sulphur, Eagle
-Nord Sniper: Eagle, Nord Ranger: Arrowhead
-Juggernaut: Improve existing chances, Damascus
-Ward of Ragnar, Entranced Zercs: Improve existing chances
-Chosen Skirmisher: HM, Eagle
-Whalers of Ragnarok: Bear Fur (as it used to be)
-Nord Shield Maiden: HM, Lump
-Bifrost Guardian: Lump
-Follower of Vanagandr/Skol: Lump, HM, Sulphur
-Thor's/Odin's Chosen: Improve existing chances

This would imply you know drop tables, some of this could be a thing already, drops arent public

It wasn't my intention to imply anything and I don't know droptables. What I do know is in which wave I loot and in which
I don't. It's a fact, that wave 2, 3, 5 and 6 in Hard Mode are almost completely empty.

RE: A couple of even More Ideas - Katarak - 20-01-2018

maybe it would be an good idea if you take 10 normal or hard, rag, cav runs that you have a higher chance to loot anything on normal,...

RE: A couple of even More Ideas - Jalau - 20-01-2018

Long list of ideas but I support especially the quest changes. Quests are too tideous right now.

RE: A couple of even More Ideas - Green_Dragon - 20-01-2018

(20-01-2018, 12:02 PM)Jalau Wrote: Long list of ideas but I support especially the quest changes. Quests are too tideous right now.

I agree. Rewards are just not up to date and many quests aren't corresponding to bot numbers
in waves. A good example for this are the Wolf Clan Warriors, which only appear as an alt wave
14 in Rag mode. The Clan Hunter quest therefore takes ages to complete and isn't even worth
accepting imo.

RE: A couple of even More Ideas - Winter - 20-01-2018

(20-01-2018, 10:53 AM)Green_Dragon Wrote: Loot:
Improve Red Mat Loot as follows:
Lumps now at 60k-->20k-->+3x dropchance
Sulphur now at 90k-->50k-->+2x dropchance
HM now at 7k-->3.5k-->+2x dropchance
Black Steel now at 15k-->7.5k-->+2x dropchance
WoGs, Arrowheads and Raven Feathers are ok.
Damascus now at 150k-->50k-->+3x dropchance
Eagle Feather now at 120k-->20k-->+4x dropchance
Bear Fur now at 25k-->12.5k-->+2x dropchance

Bots that don't drop shit and could be used to drop stuff:
-Nord Heavy Skirmisher: HM
-Vanguard Huscarl: HM, Damascus
-Veteran Huscarl: HM, Lump
-Royal Assassin: Sulphur, Eagle
-Nord Sniper: Eagle, Nord Ranger: Arrowhead
-Juggernaut: Improve existing chances, Damascus
-Ward of Ragnar, Entranced Zercs: Improve existing chances
-Chosen Skirmisher: HM, Eagle
-Whalers of Ragnarok: Bear Fur (as it used to be)
-Nord Shield Maiden: HM, Lump
-Bifrost Guardian: Lump
-Follower of Vanagandr/Skol: Lump, HM, Sulphur
-Thor's/Odin's Chosen: Improve existing chances

Thank you for your suggestion.

The loot system is being looked at currently. Please note that bots like Vanguard Huscarl, Veteran Huscarl, Royal Assassin, Nord Sniper, Chosen Skirmisher, Nord Shield Maiden, Bifrost Guardian, and Follower of Vanagandr are not meant to have very expensive loot so that playing the first 3-6 waves is not more profitable than completing the run. The more expensive materials are supposed to tend to be on the harder to reach waves. Some changes are already under way.

I will leave the thread open for the Quest discussion, but as it stands I feel some of your suggestions for Ragnarok and Hard mode are overpowered. I will make a more put-together post on that later, once more discussion has been had.