(21-08-2018, 04:10 PM)Woody Wrote:(21-08-2018, 03:59 PM)Pavel Wrote:(21-08-2018, 03:56 PM)Woody Wrote:(21-08-2018, 03:53 PM)Pavel Wrote: I think mod used to about working as team.
Has it changed that much in the week I've been afg for?
I don't get this sarcasm. Try pointing out where the teamwork is in what I said about completely blocking off the nords and showering them with arrows and javelins. I guess the only resemblance of teamwork would be the guy building the cades?
Its still about working as a team just its got a problem. If it was not you would be able to solo rag just as easily but more importantly, as quick a full 20/16 sever.
Ye, I agree that inf out of the 4 classes its well the most... etc but I feel like people are overblowing how inf is...
Inf just struggles with the problem of 1 inf in a sever out of 16 is almost useless but if 1/4th is inf well I see no problem or less of one. For the problem of cading of well it's just something, we have done for years when we get certain maps and times when we have less than 2 inf are present.
I still don't think that getting more players in the server just to be able to shoot down the nords quicker classifies as teamwork in my mind, but I guess it's a matter of perspective
I agree about people overblowing the state of infantry though which is why I think this new extra health feature might indeed turn infantry really OP in some (many?) situations but I guess will see when it comes out.
And anyway, about the cading off, I just think it happens way too often now, probably 2/3 of the games I play as I said. It just makes gameplay feel stale to me, that's all. But maybe it's just me that feels this way about it ; )
(21-08-2018, 04:22 PM)Malong Wrote:(21-08-2018, 04:13 PM)Pavel Wrote: Duh. "Forcing people to play as you want to play"? Yes, reducing the usefulness of cades will do just that, the same way increasing the usefulness of cades over the past couple of years has forced players to completely cade off etc. simply because this is the most efficient way of playing right now. Again, I'm not attacking this way of playing just because I prefer other types of gameplay. I'm simply giving you my opinion on the matter of cades and cading off which Darnocslew brought up.
Good job reading. Again, "I don't like public server strategies" is not equivalent to "People don't employ teamwork." Duh!
It also seems you've forgotten that that in "the past couple of years" (actually, a year and two days ago) that Wall Barricades got nerfed. Duh!
(21-08-2018, 04:13 PM)Pavel Wrote: About RGs going AFK: yes people used to do that and still do, and I remember plenty of games where this resulted in the whole team wiping simply because the shielder didn't move a couple of steps in any direction. However, I don't remember ever going AFK while shielding and I've done quite a lot of it.
And you think your experience can be projected to the rest of the mod? Is that why "AFK shielding" is a well-known phrase?
""I don't like public server strategies" is not equivalent to "People don't employ teamwork." Duh!"
Haha, man, never said (or meant to say) that. What I meant was that current "public server strategies" result in people playing in a way which people like me and Darnocslew don't consider to be involving any teamwork. I say people like us because I can see that Woody has a different view on what teamwork is, which I have nothing against.
"And you think your experience can be projected to the rest of the mod? Is that why "AFK shielding" is a well-known phrase?"
Yes, you have a good point with that phrase, and no, I didn't mean to project my personal experience to the rest of the mod's community. I just think that the current gameplay (cading off, etc.) involves a lot less playing as team than shielding/slashing/focusing nords at range/etc., and I don't particularly enjoy it as it feels extremely stale to me. And AGAIN, this is all just my opinion, and I'm not expecting anyone to agree with me
