(12-09-2014, 06:14 AM)clickeverywhere link Wrote: Hey Don, I'm glad you decided to ask. I've been playing the game for a while so I may be able to offer you some insight.

Currently, the optimal team compositions for most maps have 3-5 commandos, with the rest being ranged DPS classes (crossbowman, archer, pikeman). The commandos block the bots from getting to the damage dealers. Support items (specifically Short Heavy Barricades  [abbreviated as SHC] [Engineer], and Explosive Barrels [barrels] [Engineer], Resurrection Tomes [tomes] [Medic]) are crucial for a teams success. Without these items, Ragnarok mode would be nigh impossible. Hard mode and normal mode are still possible without Tomes and Barrels, but would require much more careful play.

For the optimal team, you'd want two or three medics with tomes (so that more tomes can be spawned in), one barrel bringer, and 12 people bringing in SHC. This way, you have infinite barricades/tomes/barrels and you can efficiently tome in SHC to prepare for waves like Thor and Odin.

Now let's talk about pricing. Short heavy barricades cost around 300,000 gold. Explosive Barrels are likely in the range of five to six million gold. Resurrection tomes can cost seven to eight million gold. Obviously, this is a huge price discrepancy. You'll generally need more players who can bring SHC into a run than those who can bring tomes or barrels, which is why it's probably best for newer and poorer players to go down the path of engineer. By doing so, you can be more helpful to the team earlier on. Almost every run benefits from having more SHC.

My explanation thus far has only focused on high end items. Let's look at some lower end support items that medics can bring. The medic box is a very powerful tool (if actually put in use). It is equippable by a T2 medic, has 3 charges, and heals 40% of all teammates in a 10 meter radius. Medic boxes and other healing equipment can all be refilled at the ammo box, which means if you have an ammo box in a safe place, you can give your team infinite life. The unfortunate side is that many players who choose medic never have any intention to use medic boxes to help the team. They spawn them in and drop them on the floor, where they do nothing and despawn. They're not barricades, people. You can't just deploy them and forget about them. But anyway, I digress.

The most suitable class to become a medic is probably the archer or the crossbowman. This is opinion based, of course, but the way I see it, archers and crossbowmen need to refill their ammo anyway so two birds one stone. Not to mention, they can carry a lot more ammo than pikemen can. You may think that pikemen would be great medicbox users due to their increased throwing skill, but Pikemen are terrible medic box users because their ammo capacity sucks. If I were to carry a med box, I'd have 28 shots. If I forwent the use of a melee weapon, I'd have 42. not a good number, especially when most late game enemies require 2-4 shots (to the face). For a good example of the archer-medic, see the player Banterin_Mk2. The worst class for using medic kits is the commando. The ammo refill isn't really the preferred hangout place for commandos.

For more information regarding the medic class, check out my forum thread: http://forum.nordinvasion.com/index.php?topic=26909.0.html

So in conclusion, my advice for you if you're going to play skirmisher: choose engineer. Even if you don't go skirmisher, when you are starting out you should just choose engineer. It gives you access to one of the most vital items in the game at a good price. As for crafting class... you can just skip it. You could just ask others to craft things for you via the forum (or if you join a house). It's a huge investment to level up your crafting and it's better to put your resources into buying better gear.

(12-09-2014, 06:14 AM)clickeverywhere link Wrote: Hey Don, I'm glad you decided to ask. I've been playing the game for a while so I may be able to offer you some insight.

Currently, the optimal team compositions for most maps have 3-5 commandos, with the rest being ranged DPS classes (crossbowman, archer, pikeman). The commandos block the bots from getting to the damage dealers. Support items (specifically Short Heavy Barricades  [abbreviated as SHC] [Engineer], and Explosive Barrels [barrels] [Engineer], Resurrection Tomes [tomes] [Medic]) are crucial for a teams success. Without these items, Ragnarok mode would be nigh impossible. Hard mode and normal mode are still possible without Tomes and Barrels, but would require much more careful play.

For the optimal team, you'd want two or three medics with tomes (so that more tomes can be spawned in), one barrel bringer, and 12 people bringing in SHC. This way, you have infinite barricades/tomes/barrels and you can efficiently tome in SHC to prepare for waves like Thor and Odin.

Now let's talk about pricing. Short heavy barricades cost around 300,000 gold. Explosive Barrels are likely in the range of five to six million gold. Resurrection tomes can cost seven to eight million gold. Obviously, this is a huge price discrepancy. You'll generally need more players who can bring SHC into a run than those who can bring tomes or barrels, which is why it's probably best for newer and poorer players to go down the path of engineer. By doing so, you can be more helpful to the team earlier on. Almost every run benefits from having more SHC.

My explanation thus far has only focused on high end items. Let's look at some lower end support items that medics can bring. The medic box is a very powerful tool (if actually put in use). It is equippable by a T2 medic, has 3 charges, and heals 40% of all teammates in a 10 meter radius. Medic boxes and other healing equipment can all be refilled at the ammo box, which means if you have an ammo box in a safe place, you can give your team infinite life. The unfortunate side is that many players who choose medic never have any intention to use medic boxes to help the team. They spawn them in and drop them on the floor, where they do nothing and despawn. They're not barricades, people. You can't just deploy them and forget about them. But anyway, I digress.

The most suitable class to become a medic is probably the archer or the crossbowman. This is opinion based, of course, but the way I see it, archers and crossbowmen need to refill their ammo anyway so two birds one stone. Not to mention, they can carry a lot more ammo than pikemen can. You may think that pikemen would be great medicbox users due to their increased throwing skill, but Pikemen are terrible medic box users because their ammo capacity sucks. If I were to carry a med box, I'd have 28 shots. If I forwent the use of a melee weapon, I'd have 42. not a good number, especially when most late game enemies require 2-4 shots (to the face). For a good example of the archer-medic, see the player Banterin_Mk2. The worst class for using medic kits is the commando. The ammo refill isn't really the preferred hangout place for commandos.

For more information regarding the medic class, check out my forum thread: http://forum.nordinvasion.com/index.php?topic=26909.0.html

So in conclusion, my advice for you if you're going to play skirmisher: choose engineer. Even if you don't go skirmisher, when you are starting out you should just choose engineer. It gives you access to one of the most vital items in the game at a good price. As for crafting class... you can just skip it. You could just ask others to craft things for you via the forum (or if you join a house). It's a huge investment to level up your crafting and it's better to put your resources into buying better gear.