06-03-2012, 05:17 PM
Wow wow, guys don't be that hard, it's true that we have balance issue and problems with map, but i don't feel like it's really intended.
I mean, devs are trying things, they make some tests searching for a better game, trying to find a balance between challenge and fun (without challenge it's not fun too).
Lets try to make proposal and give idea, i guess they are aware of the problem no need to moan more.
I tend to agree that maps were more fun before, but obioulsy there has been abuse : jeldan room and shield wall stack were the most that headed the devs to change map.
We need choke point to canalize the nords horde, i say canalize because no shieldwall is permanent, after boss waves almost all are destroyed.
I agree that the shieldwall stack was exploiting, but now that mats are destroying between each round there is no more reason to remove choke point.
If we take example of mountain pass there is plenty of choke point but no one goes specially far on this map.
I guess instead of removing every choke point each time players find one that devs didn't see, we should add many choke point on every map.
This would give many options to players, we will see many tactics, ppl would like many maps instead of one every time, no more unauthorized camping, and most of all : fun.
Fact is that normal mod is way harder than before, no more high level char to fight with high tier bots which mean there is no way that a char group under lvl 39 can reach knights or even troopers (most ended at skirmy)
Hard mod is just hard with the 4th first waves in circle, no way you can make something without choke point (except for cav ofc) you can have all the teamwork you want if you can't canalize bots you will be surrounded and dead.
Choke points don't have to be a gate or a small tunnels, but you need atleast an area that allow you to contain the horde, it must be reachable by ranged and fair.
I say we need official choke point!!
I mean, devs are trying things, they make some tests searching for a better game, trying to find a balance between challenge and fun (without challenge it's not fun too).
Lets try to make proposal and give idea, i guess they are aware of the problem no need to moan more.
I tend to agree that maps were more fun before, but obioulsy there has been abuse : jeldan room and shield wall stack were the most that headed the devs to change map.
We need choke point to canalize the nords horde, i say canalize because no shieldwall is permanent, after boss waves almost all are destroyed.
I agree that the shieldwall stack was exploiting, but now that mats are destroying between each round there is no more reason to remove choke point.
If we take example of mountain pass there is plenty of choke point but no one goes specially far on this map.
I guess instead of removing every choke point each time players find one that devs didn't see, we should add many choke point on every map.
This would give many options to players, we will see many tactics, ppl would like many maps instead of one every time, no more unauthorized camping, and most of all : fun.
Fact is that normal mod is way harder than before, no more high level char to fight with high tier bots which mean there is no way that a char group under lvl 39 can reach knights or even troopers (most ended at skirmy)
Hard mod is just hard with the 4th first waves in circle, no way you can make something without choke point (except for cav ofc) you can have all the teamwork you want if you can't canalize bots you will be surrounded and dead.
Choke points don't have to be a gate or a small tunnels, but you need atleast an area that allow you to contain the horde, it must be reachable by ranged and fair.
I say we need official choke point!!
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