Kiting stuff, keep it here!

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yes,pls!	62.61%	144	62.61%
no, we just want the cading.	9.57%	22	9.57%
I dont care about it.	6.52%	15	6.52%
yes, but nerf it, meaning stronger bots.	5.65%	13	5.65%
Whine whine whine	15.65%	36	15.65%
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Kiting stuff, keep it here!

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#129

22-03-2015, 11:36 AM

(21-03-2015, 11:02 PM)FV_HappyMonk3y99 link Wrote:
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[quote author=[ASSASSINE] link=topic=24687.msg225925#msg225925 date=1426975839]
Lets get back to the Original topic= Nerf of kiting once Again. I have to Agree with Josh, its been nerfed enough now, low xp, Low loot and harder bots ( shotgun sniper on rag). Pls let us have at least a bit of our former kiting fun, people enjoy this let then have at least the Taste of memories of it. I still havent Managed go Understand why it is so Bad

I completely agree with Assassine and madjosh.
I have changed my stance on this topic= I used to be all for a nerf(not removal) of kiting, which was done very well in patches including and directly following 7.0. People could still kite and have their fun if they enjoyed it, but the loot and xp they gained(one of the main reasons why people were against it) was lowered to the point where kiting became more of a test of skill and a chance for fun than a way to get rich quick.
Removing an entire playstyle is not the way to make the game more team orientated. Rather than punishing people who kite and want to play alone(thereby alienating part of the community to the point that they can make a 9 page topic on why its such an issue that its being targeted), try and look for ways to encourage teamwork. Kiting CAN be a team effort, but because of the restrictions that have been placed upon it(smaller maps, random dead ends, harder bots, and more 1-way maps), people have not been encouraged to stop kiting, but to do it in even smaller groups.
I used to see 6-10 people kiting together, using their abilities and cooperation to beat the game. Now, kiting groups that large, even when stacked with strong players, only hold a team back.

Should all maps be made kiteable and ridiculously easy? No. But should good, well made maps be scattered with blockades simply to prevent people from playing how they want? No again. As for the argument that kiting exploits the AI and its inability to behave in a proper way, what about making a wall of cades and shields and then whacking an entire wave of enemies in the head over and over again because they are unable to jump over the 1 foot tall wall 2 steps to their left? Is that not exploiting their behaviour?
Teamwork is not limited to sitting at a shield wall and slashing through a 1 inch hole and shooting at stationary enemies, teamwork means to work as a team to achieve a goal, whether kiting, or shielding.
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That. Thanks Monkey, I share this point of view. It's just in finding the right balance between what can be achieved by teamwork only and a personal effort. Both should have proper place in game.

However, I'd like to suggest just to be patient. When things change with consecutive updates they may go a bit off-balance this way or the other each time but there is no good way to find the proper balance without making changes and testing results. The testing just takes place while we play and afterwards we put forward our opinions (like what we are just doing). I'm quite sure devs take them into deep consideration.

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