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Poll: The Infantry Problem
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Infantry is OP
4.62%
3 4.62%
Infantry is above average
3.08%
2 3.08%
Infantry is fine as is
23.08%
15 23.08%
Infantry needs some small changes
24.62%
16 24.62%
Infantry is under powered
16.92%
11 16.92%
Infantry is just the worst
7.69%
5 7.69%
Wall Barricades are evil and should be removed
9.23%
6 9.23%
I do not care
10.77%
7 10.77%
Total 65 vote(s) 100%
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The Infantry Problem 2
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(02-12-2017, 02:31 AM)Sir Baron Wrote: It could be said that it's the same for any other class
I have seen top gear MP least kills without being healer

If screens don't count I can't prove anything but no one else can so there is no point being here

It can be said it is the same for any class, yes.  I'm glad you agree that a Legionnaire getting top kills in melee doesn't mean anything, as any class can obtain top kills using their weapons of choice.

Screenshots of a person getting a high score along with their class doesn't prove anything relating to balance, no.  There is plenty of points to being here, though.  For one, I am hoping some people will get some practice in actually addressing the points made by others and not just arguing past each other.  As far as the actual topic goes, maybe at some point there will be a reasonable conclusion reached on what is wrong with infantry, if anything, and how to fix it (whether or not this is a changing of the class or of outside factors such as maps or barricades).  If no conclusion is reached, at least some ideas will be thrown out that may later be adopted and people will be forced to actually think about their positions in order to provide evidence and reasoning for their beliefs instead of dogmatically shouting the same thing over and over.

I don't know why in argumentation there is such an emphasis on "proving" yourself right. If that is the mentality one approaches a situation with, it is much harder for them to accept the ideas of others and will often lead to subconscious logical fallacies. It also makes it much easier for one to get frustrated that they aren't winning. The point of an argument should be to reach the truth and, in the event that the truth is a problem, find a reasonable solution or solutions to fix it. Whether or not screenshots of an unsatisfactory point (as already established) are able to prove something or not has no effect on reality or the merits of discussing it.
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The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 28-11-2017, 06:57 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Coconut - 03-12-2017, 03:52 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by oracolus - 03-12-2017, 07:57 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Bobo - 03-12-2017, 08:28 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by oracolus - 03-12-2017, 08:47 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Jalau - 03-12-2017, 10:36 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by oracolus - 03-12-2017, 11:39 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Jalau - 03-12-2017, 12:56 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 03-12-2017, 01:28 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by TerrorBite - 03-12-2017, 10:59 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Nka19 - 03-12-2017, 04:52 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 03-12-2017, 06:50 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Bobo - 03-12-2017, 06:57 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Nka19 - 03-12-2017, 06:59 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 03-12-2017, 07:11 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Rezev - 03-12-2017, 08:25 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Bobo - 03-12-2017, 08:39 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 03-12-2017, 11:34 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Winter - 03-12-2017, 11:49 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 04-12-2017, 12:06 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Winter - 04-12-2017, 12:14 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by TerrorBite - 04-12-2017, 12:48 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 04-12-2017, 12:36 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 04-12-2017, 01:01 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by DR. - 04-12-2017, 02:23 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by TerrorBite - 04-12-2017, 01:03 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Bobo - 04-12-2017, 08:52 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Black_Kitten* - 09-12-2017, 08:40 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Bobo - 09-12-2017, 08:48 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Black_Kitten* - 09-12-2017, 10:07 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by DR. - 09-12-2017, 09:29 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Kaasovic - 09-12-2017, 09:38 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by DR. - 09-12-2017, 10:02 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Swaliant - 09-12-2017, 10:59 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by TerrorBite - 09-12-2017, 11:33 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Winter - 09-12-2017, 06:03 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 09-12-2017, 01:09 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Jalau - 09-12-2017, 02:10 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by DR. - 09-12-2017, 02:37 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 09-12-2017, 03:15 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Kaasovic - 09-12-2017, 03:38 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Jalau - 09-12-2017, 04:02 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 09-12-2017, 06:45 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Winter - 09-12-2017, 07:10 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 09-12-2017, 07:58 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Winter - 09-12-2017, 08:03 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Kaasovic - 09-12-2017, 09:33 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by DR. - 10-12-2017, 12:44 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Kaasovic - 10-12-2017, 12:51 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by DR. - 10-12-2017, 02:22 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 09-12-2017, 10:16 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Kaasovic - 09-12-2017, 10:24 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 09-12-2017, 10:36 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Winter - 09-12-2017, 10:38 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by TerrorBite - 09-12-2017, 11:21 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 09-12-2017, 11:50 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Winter - 10-12-2017, 12:55 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by TerrorBite - 10-12-2017, 12:12 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 10-12-2017, 12:46 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 10-12-2017, 01:05 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Winter - 10-12-2017, 01:23 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by TerrorBite - 10-12-2017, 01:33 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 10-12-2017, 02:44 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Kaasovic - 10-12-2017, 06:31 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Malong - 10-12-2017, 05:01 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by DR. - 10-12-2017, 02:54 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Bobo - 10-12-2017, 08:18 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Winter - 10-12-2017, 08:29 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by TerrorBite - 10-12-2017, 09:55 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 10-12-2017, 01:26 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Winter - 10-12-2017, 06:23 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 10-12-2017, 05:27 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Malong - 10-12-2017, 05:35 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 10-12-2017, 06:14 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Kaasovic - 10-12-2017, 06:48 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Sir Baron - 10-12-2017, 06:58 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Winter - 10-12-2017, 07:48 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by DR. - 10-12-2017, 08:06 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Rezev - 10-12-2017, 09:18 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Swaliant - 10-12-2017, 10:19 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by Malong - 10-12-2017, 11:47 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by oracolus - 11-12-2017, 05:13 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by DR. - 11-12-2017, 05:18 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by oracolus - 11-12-2017, 05:37 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem 2 - by DR. - 11-12-2017, 05:57 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by DR. - 28-11-2017, 07:36 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 29-11-2017, 12:47 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 29-11-2017, 01:14 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 29-11-2017, 01:51 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by DR. - 29-11-2017, 06:27 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 29-11-2017, 06:59 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Winter - 29-11-2017, 07:09 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by DR. - 29-11-2017, 07:37 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Nka19 - 29-11-2017, 08:39 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 29-11-2017, 09:01 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by DR. - 29-11-2017, 09:15 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 29-11-2017, 11:32 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Kaasovic - 29-11-2017, 11:48 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 29-11-2017, 12:12 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Kaasovic - 29-11-2017, 12:30 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Jalau - 29-11-2017, 12:39 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 29-11-2017, 01:47 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Jalau - 29-11-2017, 02:14 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Leandero - 29-11-2017, 03:28 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 29-11-2017, 04:03 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 30-11-2017, 07:20 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Leandero - 30-11-2017, 07:51 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by PioPio - 30-11-2017, 07:55 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Thunderstorm - 30-11-2017, 08:04 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 30-11-2017, 08:27 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Pavel - 30-11-2017, 12:14 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 30-11-2017, 01:00 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by PioPio - 30-11-2017, 01:11 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Winter - 30-11-2017, 01:34 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Malong - 03-12-2017, 06:47 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Winter - 03-12-2017, 06:54 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 30-11-2017, 02:23 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Winter - 30-11-2017, 02:25 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 30-11-2017, 02:34 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Winter - 30-11-2017, 02:35 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Pavel - 30-11-2017, 02:39 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 30-11-2017, 03:16 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Leandero - 30-11-2017, 03:18 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 30-11-2017, 03:23 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Winter - 30-11-2017, 03:44 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Thunderstorm - 30-11-2017, 03:54 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 30-11-2017, 04:23 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Winter - 30-11-2017, 04:36 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by PioPio - 30-11-2017, 05:41 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Thunderstorm - 30-11-2017, 06:58 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 01-12-2017, 12:32 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 01-12-2017, 01:03 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Coconut - 01-12-2017, 01:22 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 01-12-2017, 01:32 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Coconut - 01-12-2017, 01:34 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 01-12-2017, 01:36 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by DR. - 01-12-2017, 01:50 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 01-12-2017, 02:01 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Disco - 01-12-2017, 02:25 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 01-12-2017, 02:51 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 01-12-2017, 02:57 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 01-12-2017, 03:44 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by DR. - 01-12-2017, 08:06 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 01-12-2017, 01:53 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 01-12-2017, 02:29 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Stillicho - 01-12-2017, 07:58 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Bobo - 01-12-2017, 08:32 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 01-12-2017, 09:01 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Kaasovic - 01-12-2017, 09:09 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 01-12-2017, 10:24 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Kaasovic - 01-12-2017, 10:50 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 02-12-2017, 12:37 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 02-12-2017, 12:39 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 02-12-2017, 12:44 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by ON_Glenn - 02-12-2017, 01:02 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Kaasovic - 02-12-2017, 01:02 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 02-12-2017, 01:09 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Winter - 02-12-2017, 01:25 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Kaasovic - 02-12-2017, 01:38 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 02-12-2017, 01:44 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Winter - 02-12-2017, 02:00 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 02-12-2017, 02:31 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Winter - 02-12-2017, 02:37 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 02-12-2017, 02:52 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 02-12-2017, 02:55 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Winter - 02-12-2017, 02:57 AM
The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 02-12-2017, 03:44 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 02-12-2017, 03:57 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by DR. - 02-12-2017, 04:13 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 02-12-2017, 04:23 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by DR. - 02-12-2017, 04:52 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 02-12-2017, 05:14 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by oracolus - 02-12-2017, 08:19 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Lophorius - 02-12-2017, 09:33 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Rezev - 02-12-2017, 10:09 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by DR. - 02-12-2017, 10:59 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Kaasovic - 02-12-2017, 11:03 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 02-12-2017, 12:05 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Kaasovic - 02-12-2017, 12:22 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by DR. - 02-12-2017, 12:47 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 02-12-2017, 12:55 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by DR. - 02-12-2017, 01:00 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Kaasovic - 02-12-2017, 01:00 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 02-12-2017, 01:14 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 02-12-2017, 01:15 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Rezev - 02-12-2017, 01:17 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 02-12-2017, 01:19 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 02-12-2017, 01:23 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by DR. - 02-12-2017, 01:23 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 02-12-2017, 01:37 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Kaasovic - 02-12-2017, 01:37 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 02-12-2017, 01:52 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 02-12-2017, 01:58 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Kaasovic - 02-12-2017, 02:03 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 02-12-2017, 02:07 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Kaasovic - 02-12-2017, 02:13 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 02-12-2017, 02:17 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Kaasovic - 02-12-2017, 02:29 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 02-12-2017, 02:37 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Kaasovic - 02-12-2017, 03:19 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by oracolus - 02-12-2017, 03:30 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 02-12-2017, 03:35 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sargent Q - 02-12-2017, 05:56 PM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 03-12-2017, 01:13 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by Sir Baron - 03-12-2017, 02:17 AM
RE: The Infantry Problem - by TerrorBite - 03-12-2017, 04:20 AM



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