28-07-2014, 10:55 PM
TLDR: I want a couple one-handed weapons that cost 600-800k. (dedicated one handers, not bastard swords)
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Being a legionnaire, I have noticed a lack of a balanced price range of one hander weapons, and more importantly, one hander weapons in the mid-level category. I will try to stay away from the discussion on stat buff's for legionarie here, and instead focus on the equipment.
There are the entry level "good' weapons, which are the vengeance and steel cutter for the legionarrie, and the butcher and the boarding axe for the zweihander.
Then there are the "upper level" good weapons, which are in the 2 million category, including the frost fang, hero's hope, etc for legionnaire, and the the various upper level weapons for zwei.
Zweihander get several mid level weapons, like the TSBS, in the "Mid-level" category. The TSBS is around 700k, and several other mid-level weapons are as well. The legionarrie on the other hand, only really has access to the worm bane or aurora blade as a mid level weapon. Due to the worm bane and AB being bastard swords, they take a 30 percent nerf when being used as one handers. That 30 percent nerf makes them far worse than lower-tier equipment such as the steel cutter. To summarize, bastard swords (also referred to as hand-and-a-half swords) are not a viable option for legionaries to use.
In effect, there is a massive gap between one-handed tiers (steel cutter at 350k, frost fang at appx. 2m), with a mid-level tier being nonexistent. There is no 600-800k price range for one-handed (non-bastard type) weapons.
The steel sword was an interesting commando level weapon that many dislike due to it's cumbersomeness but I thought to be extremely interesting. It has 110 length, which is simply incredible for a non-bastard one hander weapon. It's not a bastard sword which means it is a dedicated one hander, with no nerf's like the worm bane or AB.
I thought if we made one or two 600k-800k upgraded versions of the steel sword, that would be fantastic. It would be usable by all commando classes. Most importantly, to justify the expense (almost as expensive as a worm bane), it would not be a bastard weapon; that is vital, of course.
example one: Steel Long Sword (simple names are always the best); 99 speed, 108 length, 50 cut. It's basically like the swadian courage but with two less cut. This is just a rough example. If these stats are ridiculously OP or underpowered, please don't be angry at me and suggest your own stats.
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In addition, this raises the issue of why such a wide range of one-handed weapons all have identical crafting costs. For example, why is the ornate crusader sword, or the tempered steel falchion just as expensive as a frost fang? An alternate fix would be to make these mid-level weapons more reasonably priced. (600-800k, instead of 1.5-2m)
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Being a legionnaire, I have noticed a lack of a balanced price range of one hander weapons, and more importantly, one hander weapons in the mid-level category. I will try to stay away from the discussion on stat buff's for legionarie here, and instead focus on the equipment.
There are the entry level "good' weapons, which are the vengeance and steel cutter for the legionarrie, and the butcher and the boarding axe for the zweihander.
Then there are the "upper level" good weapons, which are in the 2 million category, including the frost fang, hero's hope, etc for legionnaire, and the the various upper level weapons for zwei.
Zweihander get several mid level weapons, like the TSBS, in the "Mid-level" category. The TSBS is around 700k, and several other mid-level weapons are as well. The legionarrie on the other hand, only really has access to the worm bane or aurora blade as a mid level weapon. Due to the worm bane and AB being bastard swords, they take a 30 percent nerf when being used as one handers. That 30 percent nerf makes them far worse than lower-tier equipment such as the steel cutter. To summarize, bastard swords (also referred to as hand-and-a-half swords) are not a viable option for legionaries to use.
In effect, there is a massive gap between one-handed tiers (steel cutter at 350k, frost fang at appx. 2m), with a mid-level tier being nonexistent. There is no 600-800k price range for one-handed (non-bastard type) weapons.
The steel sword was an interesting commando level weapon that many dislike due to it's cumbersomeness but I thought to be extremely interesting. It has 110 length, which is simply incredible for a non-bastard one hander weapon. It's not a bastard sword which means it is a dedicated one hander, with no nerf's like the worm bane or AB.
I thought if we made one or two 600k-800k upgraded versions of the steel sword, that would be fantastic. It would be usable by all commando classes. Most importantly, to justify the expense (almost as expensive as a worm bane), it would not be a bastard weapon; that is vital, of course.
example one: Steel Long Sword (simple names are always the best); 99 speed, 108 length, 50 cut. It's basically like the swadian courage but with two less cut. This is just a rough example. If these stats are ridiculously OP or underpowered, please don't be angry at me and suggest your own stats.
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In addition, this raises the issue of why such a wide range of one-handed weapons all have identical crafting costs. For example, why is the ornate crusader sword, or the tempered steel falchion just as expensive as a frost fang? An alternate fix would be to make these mid-level weapons more reasonably priced. (600-800k, instead of 1.5-2m)
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