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The Item and Class Stat Balance Thread
#61
(16-12-2015, 08:29 PM)Winter link Wrote: [quote author=Woody link=topic=47440.msg250544#msg250544 date=1450251516]
Dragon Halberd/Dwarf Axe/Justice
Some one had the idea to make it like the Legacy that winter made with the (69c and 93 speed ?) just make it slow with more cut
There are 3 weapons listed there.  I hope you don't mean all 3 should have those stats.  I am totally in favor of the Dragon Halberd getting some work done on it, though.  Ideas and thoughts, please.
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Well my idea would be 67-69c 90-92speed something along those lines.
Or thinking about it could be cool if it was the other way if it was faster than navel but alot less cut.

Dwarf Axe 95-97speed 66-68c.

Justice 90-92 speed and 61-63c (btw my point with the ek as this has the same 40p)

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#62
Dwarf axe speed and damage are already at a good level, it's problem is the lack of length for slashing.

Make it usable on xbow then maybe it will become useful as a pdw.
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#63
(16-12-2015, 09:44 PM)Ribbed link Wrote: Dwarf axe speed and damage are already at a good level, it's problem is the lack of length for slashing.

Make it usable on xbow then maybe it will become useful as a pdw.
Would not change in game then what the point

Seeing Ek with more than 40p i can still see were talking about a small change vs a 2h that can blunt damage (ags)

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#64
(16-12-2015, 10:24 PM)Woody link Wrote: Seeing Ek with more than 40p i can still see
No.

(16-12-2015, 09:44 PM)Ribbed link Wrote: Make it usable on xbow then maybe it will become useful as a pdw.
I don't know why I like this idea, but I do.  For some reason I am imagining Dwarves running around with huge axes and crossbows LOTR style.
#65
(16-12-2015, 10:34 PM)Winter link Wrote: I don't know why I like this idea, but I do.  For some reason I am imagining Dwarves running around with huge axes and crossbows LOTR style.

(26-09-2015, 05:33 PM)Winter link Wrote:No, the Dwarf Axe is not going to be for crossbowmen. 
What made you change your mind ???

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#66
(16-12-2015, 11:28 PM)Woody link Wrote: [quote author=Winter link=topic=47440.msg250621#msg250621 date=1450305268]
I don't know why I like this idea, but I do.  For some reason I am imagining Dwarves running around with huge axes and crossbows LOTR style.

(26-09-2015, 05:33 PM)Winter link Wrote:No, the Dwarf Axe is not going to be for crossbowmen. 
What made you change your mind ???
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I saw Lord of the Rings (to be more specific, The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies), as said in the post.  I like the idea, but that doesn't mean I'm going to go through with it.

PS - Halogi's Torch: 92spd/52b/95r
Dreaded War Pick: 99spd/54p/69r

Looks like the Torch and Pick are fine.  The speed, damage, and reach balance each other out.  Legendary polearms added to OP for discussion.
#67
(16-12-2015, 07:38 AM)Woody link Wrote: Just want to bring up some items me and others think need changing
Short Heavy Cade
Apprentice not Siege Engineer
shc is the most used and most important cade ingame, I dont think you should be able to bring it in low level.
If you want to have more shcs on the server, you should encourage more players to actually buy and bring support.
Also a heavy cade is useful, if players bring it, and thats bringable from T3 on.
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#68
(17-12-2015, 12:20 AM)Kanade Tachibana link Wrote: shc is the most used and most important cade ingame

What game are you playing?
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#69
(17-12-2015, 12:29 AM)Ribbed link Wrote: [quote author=Kanade Tachibana link=topic=47440.msg250628#msg250628 date=1450311612]
shc is the most used and most important cade ingame

What game are you playing?
[/quote]Don't now about you but all i see is normal's

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#70
(17-12-2015, 12:34 AM)Woody link Wrote: [quote author=Ribbed link=topic=47440.msg250630#msg250630 date=1450312161]
[quote author=Kanade Tachibana link=topic=47440.msg250628#msg250628 date=1450311612]
shc is the most used and most important cade ingame

What game are you playing?
[/quote]Don't now about you but all i see is normal's
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SHC has been used more in previous days, but now you have to take a look at this: Less players in total, a decreased amount of "middle-class" players and many people that upgraded to a wall. Formerly, only some rich guys had it, while the huge middle-class was happy with a shc.
What I want to say is, that there is an increased gap between new players and newly "rich" ones, which nowadays leads to a semblance of more normal cades and less shc.
Also, many may invest in one or two chars + hero before they go for some decent support.
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