Support Suggestions

[Noname]

Hey there,
In a recent rag run we played Offshore and noticed a slight lack of peeking spots for players - to counteract that Platforms would be really useful. Thus I thought about adding some kind of additional support. If there are players with decent support (SHC/Wall/Barrel), they will not switch to anything of "lower" use like Platforms. Considering they did, it would have a negative impact on the whole team to lack either cade strength or ranged potential.


My suggestions to help improve support problems:

(Specifically for Platforms) Eventually lower Platforms' hitpoints and give players the opportunity to bring sets of them (comparable to Dep. Shield Sets)

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Secondary Support

Give players the possibility to bring a main support item and additional gear. Support items could be ranked like this:

5 - Explosive Barrel / Resurrection Tome
4 - Wall Barricade / Heavy Platform / Master Surgeon Kit
3 - Short Heavy Barricade / Heavy Barricade / Field Medic Box
2 - Platform / Normal Barricade / Deployable Shield (3 Pack) / Big Ammo Crate / Surgeon's Kit / Medic Box
1 - Deployable Shield (1-2 Pack) / Small Ammo Crate / Small Medic Box


Players can choose 2 different support items of their class adding up to the value of 6. It might be a problem to spawn in with both, perhaps exchanging one of the gear slots would be an option. If you don't agree with the ranking of the items, suggest some reasoned changes.
Examples: Wall Cade + Platform; SHC + HC; Normal Barricade + Dep. Shield (3 Pack)

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Support Sharing

Let players add their own support items to an item pool the whole server has access to. It would work like this:

Player 1 owns Barrel, Wall and SHC
Player 2 owns SHC and Platform
Player 3 owns nothing (decent)

Now Player 1 and 2 are bringing a barrel and an SHC. They still own more support items, which they can't use at the same time. Thus they're adding a Wall, Platform and SHC to some kind of shared armory, which Player 3 can access and draw his support from, depending on what's required. It would be similar to lending items via house trading, just that it's more "public" and helps the team directly. Implementing might be problematic nontheless.


Any constructive feedback is appreciated.

[DR.]

Support i think is not bad atm only change i would make is in the support you can put anything in it. It would help so much in cav for the cade bringers.

Altho i do like being able to bring in more than 1 plat.

(1) Normal Plat -->(3)
(1) should be the normal crafting 300k ish one the (3) should be same as the heavy plat (3) 

(1) Heavy Plat -->(3) 
(1) ... (3) should be same as Wall?

Also a plat as wide as a wall would be cool so more than 1 can use it at a time and it about idk half the hit points of wall (wall crafting)

[ON_Glenn]

''Also a plat as wide as a wall would be cool so more than 1 can use it at a time and it about idk half the hit points of wall (wall crafting)''

This would actually be really cool.

[Bobo]

I do understand the reasons behind the thread but wouldn't bringing in a tone of support items make it all too easy?
There are some maps where there's not enough spots for all ranged on a full team, true, but perhaps it is more reasonable to make some changes to those maps rather than to overhaul the support system?

[Rook]

Maybe call it a "Wide Platform"? Would be a cool support item nonetheless. Good idea, Woody.

[Eyleen]

I really like that idea, its annoying when you have to shoot over the shieldwall as a ranged, the damage from teamhits adds up quickly.

The platform could look like this?
https://imgur.com/7C9YRDU

[bluzark]

I like that cade but with wider stairs.
Because you need to run up and down to prevent from being shot.
The small stairs prevent it from 2 or 3 players using it at the same time.

[Soviet]

Yes to wide platform, no to secondary support and support sharing. Support sharing should just be between friends and people you trust.

[Eyleen]

Like this?

1 x Large Platform
https://imgur.com/a/nQMsn

Stylistically, I prefer the smaller stair version. For ingame, the wider version is probably more useful.

[bluzark]

like that but why not make each step of the stairs out of one plank instead