Royal Helmet: Remodel

[Terath]

Royal Helmet deserves a re-model. Originally, it was the native Maciejowski winged great helmet, which is a serviceable model, but a native one. It was then switched to its current model, which I personally think is a good model, just not for Swadians (Valsgarde type helmet). So while the model itself is good, I want to switch it with something that more fits the Swadian legendary theme, so that I can return the model to the Nords and further diversify Nord armours. You could bring up Valsgarde, which I would love to remove, but the model looks great with a lot of Swadian armours and it's a classic, so I don't really mind using it.

Basically, I want to make a model more befitting of the name. I am more or less looking for reference images and discussion from this thread. Here are my specifications:

- Has to be a heavy looking helmet. Think great helms, armets, maciejowski helmets (winged works too), full helmets, close helmets, or barbuttes / barbutas. I am personally partial to winged maciejowski helmets or barbuttes.
- Has to fit with Imperial Red / Blue.
- Has to be relatively ornate, or could be made more ornate, to fit its name.

I am also posting a poll to decide whether or not the model should be remodeled, just in case I am incorrect in assuming that this model is not wanted. Also included in the poll, in case it is wanted, is the option to retexture Imperial Red / Blue to have details similar to the Gothic Set's retexture. This would reinforce the ability to mix Gothic armour pieces with Imperial Red / Blue and the new helmet, creating a more cohesive set of armour. Thanks for your assistance.

Edit: The bottom option in the poll should say 'remodelled' instead of 'retextured' for the Royal Helmet. As in:
Royal Helmet should not be remodelled*, and Imperial Red / Blue should not be retextured.

[Zocki]

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[Kriegstofu]

as the body armor is churburg, why not make the helmet churburg style too?

https://www.outfit4events.com/eur/produc...rness-s18/

website has more pics of it

some other churburg helmets

[Image: Ruestkammer02.jpg]

[Black_Kitten*]

"Has to be relatively ornate, or could be made more ornate, to fit its name." Exist only one such model ===||
https://ibb.co/pK59jm5 <====================||
https://ibb.co/tKcMXTx
or create this nice model for MP pls)

[Asdru]

My favorite and can fit with imperial armour :



Or this (i know some are near of what is actually in game)

Spoiler

[DR.]

Can't find any pics of the helm but I liked the idea of the very old model of "Dark Closed Face" and the "Light Closed Face Helmet".


Think it looked like this abit but not as good.

[Terath]

I am entering a new choice into the reference images: the Close Burgonet.
To me, this helmet seems the most imperial and royal, while still appearing heavy. It is the combination of the burgonet and a close helmet, and is considered the successor to the sallet. Imagining this helmet with the Imperial armours is easy to me, and therefore I am leaning towards this choice.

[Black_Kitten*]

don't Bucketful Helmet pls
...or ok, I  continue to wear a Visored sallet

[DR.]

I am entering a new choice into the reference images: the Close Burgonet.
To me, this helmet seems the most imperial and royal, while still appearing heavy. It is the combination of the burgonet and a close helmet, and is considered the successor to the sallet. Imagining this helmet with the Imperial armours is easy to me, and therefore I am leaning towards this choice.

Think a wider/tanker type of helm would work better for what people see Rg as. From that 1 pic it looks like a better Heavy Sturmhaube and the other crafted 2 for Pikeman. 

https://nordinvasion.com/images/items/fu...be_7BW.png
https://nordinvasion.com/images/items/fu...aube_1.png
https://nordinvasion.com/images/items/fu...ube_2B.png

What I'm saying is the helm to me looks closer to a pike helm than an Inf helm. Yes, it does not matter in the grand scheme of things but maybe this is something to consider? Would it make more sense to add it as a Hoplite helm or a Pike hem more than an Rg helm?  I'm 110% for royal helm getting a new model im just unsure if this would be the best model to go off thats all im saying. 


Also may want to point this out.

You are possibly changing Imperial because it "may" not look good with the available gothic boots/gloves. This is an opinion that we the community are judging from with no pics for what the new gothic parts look like on Imp. Like is part of this you could change Blue Imp to be Dark like Dark Gothic? This is something I would be for but I'm left to guess what your plans are.

Lets say that pic you show was the new Royal Helm. Would this look good on both Gothic's + H-Plate, ...? It's just an endless loop that I don't think you can win at the end as at a point its opinions. I do understand the push for perfection or just trying to make your work better but I think you got the point where you're going from your opinion and not the communities ones. I think the goal for models is for it to be something 75-90% people are fine with and this is were most modes are tbh. 

I dont think Imperial Red needs any changes at all and you should to as I don't think anyone has ever said anything bad about it. Imperial Blue is more questionable given that It's a nords waves armour... The easy thing to do would be get rid of Imperial Blue for the players that have it and just give them Red. You could change the Blue to idk Green, Orange, ... etc but I'm not sure if this is really needed. Eh, Green then Dark steel did I just make DB armour. 

Also also made this back in 2017. No, you don't want the DDS. 


https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...761A09120/

Purple for the Princess Dortea.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...F1873D17B/

[Kriegstofu]

close burgeonet looks best