Rollback before the Legendary essence/dust

[Leques]

jezus you two ffs, im enjoying reading this of you malong and hamster xd

[Number]

That's what I've said: Leviathan's Guard is one of the few items that's worth more than the essence value. But apart from maybe an Aila, there's not a single item that distills into 6 essences that people paid 15mil before.

And there were items that distilled for fewer than 6 Essence that sold for more than this. And these items don’t suddenly get traded for less gold because it distills into fewer than 6 Essence. This this assertion isn’t true: “But the price of legendaries is directly tied to the price of essences for almost every item now.”

It would make sense that people are willing to offer more for those items now, but are they? I honestly don't know, especially since it seems there's not many trades right now.

Then look at it the other way: people aren’t willing to accept offers unless they are higher too. This is another concept I didn’t think I should have had to explain.

I just started playing this MOD recently  
I am a new player. Actually, the biggest problem is not this but  
Legendary Loot
The drop rate is much lower, especially for a new player like me who just started playing recently.   
Buying from players is too expensive 
I have played for more than 30 days and no legendary items have dropped.
In fact, I have been playing for 30 days and only got 3000000  Gold         I basically play all the time.      Can't afford the legend I need     
My friend told me that it takes 16 players to get a normal drop rate.     
In fact, I rarely meet 15 players.
Usually 2~9 people    
Hopefully, the drop rate of Legendary Loot for new players can be increased.      or Increase my Gold income  
There is a huge gap between the price of Legendary Loot players trading and the income from in-game Gold

[Hamsterino]

The drop rate is much lower, especially for a new player like me who just started playing recently.   

The drop rate shouldn't be lower because you're a new player.

Buying from players is too expensive 

Now it is, which is due to essences.

I have played for more than 30 days and no legendary items have dropped.

Looting a legendary item every 30 days would be pretty lucky; if I was you, I wouldn't expect any loot at all.

In fact, I have been playing for 30 days and only got 3000000  Gold         I basically play all the time.      Can't afford the legend I need     

3mil wasn't enough for a lot of red legendaries even before the update. This is the grind that NordInvasion is about, I guess.

My friend told me that it takes 16 players to get a normal drop rate.     
In fact, I rarely meet 15 players.
Usually 2~9 people    

Your personal drop rate isn't influenced by how many people are in a server. The only advantage a full server has over  is that more players means more nords spawn, which in turn means more chances for you to loot (aka assist xp lines).

Hopefully, the drop rate of Legendary Loot for new players can be increased.      or Increase my Gold income  

Not that the loot system is balanced right now, but increasing the drop rate for new players most likely won't happen. The chance to loot something is supposed to be the same for every player, including new players. Also, increasing your personal gold income would be wild, just like increasing the gold income of everyone. Guess what happens when everyone gets rich...?

There is a huge gap between the price of Legendary Loot players trading and the income from in-game Gold

There is no such gap, it just takes a certain amount of time to be able to afford this or that legendary, and recently that time increased a lot, because every legendary is worth at least one essence now, which are being traded at 2,5mil.

The drop rate is much lower, especially for a new player like me who just started playing recently.   

The drop rate shouldn't be lower because you're a new player.

Buying from players is too expensive 

Now it is, which is due to essences.

I have played for more than 30 days and no legendary items have dropped.

Looting a legendary item every 30 days would be pretty lucky; if I was you, I wouldn't expect any loot at all.

In fact, I have been playing for 30 days and only got 3000000  Gold         I basically play all the time.      Can't afford the legend I need     

3mil wasn't enough for a lot of red legendaries even before the update. This is the grind that NordInvasion is about, I guess.

My friend told me that it takes 16 players to get a normal drop rate.     
In fact, I rarely meet 15 players.
Usually 2~9 people    

Your personal drop rate isn't influenced by how many people are in a server. The only advantage a full server has over  is that more players means more nords spawn, which in turn means more chances for you to loot (aka assist xp lines).

Hopefully, the drop rate of Legendary Loot for new players can be increased.      or Increase my Gold income  

Not that the loot system is balanced right now, but increasing the drop rate for new players most likely won't happen. The chance to loot something is supposed to be the same for every player, including new players. Also, increasing your personal gold income would be wild, just like increasing the gold income of everyone. Guess what happens when everyone gets rich...?

There is a huge gap between the price of Legendary Loot players trading and the income from in-game Gold

There is no such gap, it just takes a certain amount of time to be able to afford this or that legendary, and recently that time increased a lot, because every legendary is worth at least one essence now, which are being traded at 2,5mil.

Don't give up though, it may or may not get better in the future, there's always hope.

[DR.]

Hello guys, we could also rollback to the time before legendary upgrades were even a thing couldn't we?

I paid 60m gold + pike of kings (35m?) + dark gothic (40m?) for normal typhoon a few weeks before upgrades 

Gold would be worth almost nothing when buying the best items today if upgrades weren't implemented (gold sink). In saying that ye I agree as it would make new people less likely to start playing given you could say to them 

"Ye my set of gear on me Is worth 500m in gold"

"How do I get more gold in runs?"

"Skill issue"

[Malong]

I just started playing this MOD recently  
I am a new player. Actually, the biggest problem is not this but  
Legendary Loot
The drop rate is much lower, especially for a new player like me who just started playing recently.   
Buying from players is too expensive 
I have played for more than 30 days and no legendary items have dropped.
In fact, I have been playing for 30 days and only got 3000000  Gold         I basically play all the time.      Can't afford the legend I need     
My friend told me that it takes 16 players to get a normal drop rate.     
In fact, I rarely meet 15 players.
Usually 2~9 people    
Hopefully, the drop rate of Legendary Loot for new players can be increased.      or Increase my Gold income  
There is a huge gap between the price of Legendary Loot players trading and the income from in-game Gold

I had something harsher typed up, but deleted it. You really don't realize how much less of a grind the mod is today than it was years ago. A former dev once told us something to this effect in the official voice chat server: "We can't have a game where everyone has legendaries. That's not going to happen." Compare that to where the game is today.

If you want input that might help you on your journey in this mod: you don't need legendary items to get far. You will get much farther by focusing on support items instead of a little more damage and/or survivability. This can even help get you invited to events where the most efficient gameplay takes place and increase your chances of looting. Of course, you'll probably be like many transplants that will ignore this and then eventually quit. But I'll sincerely be glad if you prove me wrong.

Read this:

Anyway: no, I don't see the problem for new players. This mod was always built on delayed gratification. It took people years and combining shops to get to where they are now. People used to spend months to craft a Tome or Barrel, even after getting donations and/or pooling shop and house resources to get it done. And the number of people that had Master Surgeon Kits and Wall Barricades was in the single digits until maybe 2014 or 2015.

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The drop rate is much lower, especially for a new player like me who just started playing recently.   

The drop rate shouldn't be lower because you're a new player.

Buying from players is too expensive 

Now it is, which is due to essences.

I have played for more than 30 days and no legendary items have dropped.

Looting a legendary item every 30 days would be pretty lucky; if I was you, I wouldn't expect any loot at all.

In fact, I have been playing for 30 days and only got 3000000  Gold         I basically play all the time.      Can't afford the legend I need     

3mil wasn't enough for a lot of red legendaries even before the update. This is the grind that NordInvasion is about, I guess.

My friend told me that it takes 16 players to get a normal drop rate.     
In fact, I rarely meet 15 players.
Usually 2~9 people    

Your personal drop rate isn't influenced by how many people are in a server. The only advantage a full server has over  is that more players means more nords spawn, which in turn means more chances for you to loot (aka assist xp lines).

Hopefully, the drop rate of Legendary Loot for new players can be increased.      or Increase my Gold income  

Not that the loot system is balanced right now, but increasing the drop rate for new players most likely won't happen. The chance to loot something is supposed to be the same for every player, including new players. Also, increasing your personal gold income would be wild, just like increasing the gold income of everyone. Guess what happens when everyone gets rich...?

There is a huge gap between the price of Legendary Loot players trading and the income from in-game Gold

There is no such gap, it just takes a certain amount of time to be able to afford this or that legendary, and recently that time increased a lot, because every legendary is worth at least one essence now, which are being traded at 2,5mil.

The drop rate is much lower, especially for a new player like me who just started playing recently.   

The drop rate shouldn't be lower because you're a new player.

Buying from players is too expensive 

Now it is, which is due to essences.

I have played for more than 30 days and no legendary items have dropped.

Looting a legendary item every 30 days would be pretty lucky; if I was you, I wouldn't expect any loot at all.

In fact, I have been playing for 30 days and only got 3000000  Gold         I basically play all the time.      Can't afford the legend I need     

3mil wasn't enough for a lot of red legendaries even before the update. This is the grind that NordInvasion is about, I guess.

My friend told me that it takes 16 players to get a normal drop rate.     
In fact, I rarely meet 15 players.
Usually 2~9 people    

Your personal drop rate isn't influenced by how many people are in a server. The only advantage a full server has over  is that more players means more nords spawn, which in turn means more chances for you to loot (aka assist xp lines).

Hopefully, the drop rate of Legendary Loot for new players can be increased.      or Increase my Gold income  

Not that the loot system is balanced right now, but increasing the drop rate for new players most likely won't happen. The chance to loot something is supposed to be the same for every player, including new players. Also, increasing your personal gold income would be wild, just like increasing the gold income of everyone. Guess what happens when everyone gets rich...?

There is a huge gap between the price of Legendary Loot players trading and the income from in-game Gold

There is no such gap, it just takes a certain amount of time to be able to afford this or that legendary, and recently that time increased a lot, because every legendary is worth at least one essence now, which are being traded at 2,5mil.

Don't give up though, it may or may not get better in the future, there's always hope.