27-08-2013, 10:07 PM
Not even talking about what we do for a living outside of NI... On my first day as a developer I was working on NI for 19 hours straight, every patch day hande and myself are on working for between 14-16 hours, senni has been working his ass off morning till night every day for weeks now, naozumi has put in hundreds of hours on web related crap, banks put in an inordinate amount of time working on ragnarok alone... I hate to think how much time and money I have invested into NI. It would be impossible to sit down and work out how much time each developer has put into working on NI and I'm sure the number of hours would be staggering. I personally know how much it costs to run NI and I'm the lucky head developer in that we had a good base of donators established when I took over running this mod. The last time I checked with worm he had spent close to 1000 euro on NI and I have no idea how much Jez spent getting this off the ground. My point is however we invest both time and money into this mod for nothing but the appreciation of players.
You may say that admins get the advantage of joining servers, however they have a lot of work to do in their position as admins, deal with a lot of trouble makers and often deal with abuse at the hands of players. They have strict guidelines to follow, forms to fill out for every kicked player and regularly have to carry out additional tasks for the development team.
Ryu was rewarded for making a massive contribution to NI and as Senni said, it was only after a considerable contribution. He worked closely with us making numerous models per our requests, changing models as requested and remodelling many things for us on a very short time frame, often with only hours to work in.
I would also like to address not being able to use weapons that players model; if you make a pike, chances are it will be for a pikeman class. If you make a bow it is likely to be for the archer tree. If you make a 2h sword it's likely to be a commando... I don't see how that is so difficult.
In regards to xenoargh, mackie and narf, I know who they are and many players do know who they are. Would they be able to pick out each of their individual models? Probably not. Could I pick out each of their individual models? I doubt it. I am however very appreciative of their work and I think you'll find on each of their OSP threads they say the items are free for use but to give the modeller credit. They do not ask for items or gold in every mod that uses the items but simply for their work to be acknowledged. We have done exactly that.
I am perfectly willing for senni to look at some form of rewards system for modelling but I have always respected our modellers for their great contributions while asking for little but recognition and our genuine appreciation in return.
You may say that admins get the advantage of joining servers, however they have a lot of work to do in their position as admins, deal with a lot of trouble makers and often deal with abuse at the hands of players. They have strict guidelines to follow, forms to fill out for every kicked player and regularly have to carry out additional tasks for the development team.
Ryu was rewarded for making a massive contribution to NI and as Senni said, it was only after a considerable contribution. He worked closely with us making numerous models per our requests, changing models as requested and remodelling many things for us on a very short time frame, often with only hours to work in.
I would also like to address not being able to use weapons that players model; if you make a pike, chances are it will be for a pikeman class. If you make a bow it is likely to be for the archer tree. If you make a 2h sword it's likely to be a commando... I don't see how that is so difficult.
In regards to xenoargh, mackie and narf, I know who they are and many players do know who they are. Would they be able to pick out each of their individual models? Probably not. Could I pick out each of their individual models? I doubt it. I am however very appreciative of their work and I think you'll find on each of their OSP threads they say the items are free for use but to give the modeller credit. They do not ask for items or gold in every mod that uses the items but simply for their work to be acknowledged. We have done exactly that.
I am perfectly willing for senni to look at some form of rewards system for modelling but I have always respected our modellers for their great contributions while asking for little but recognition and our genuine appreciation in return.
Give a man a fish, and you have fed him for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will continue fishing even if you give him a fish.
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