23-11-2013, 12:22 AM
Usually when I see one of these threads I tend to stick well away from them, but as Madjosh is a friend and you’re all raising valid points I feel a need to say something, so finally after reading through all the walls of writing I have found my view of this situation.
Firstly Green drops: I have seen and read countless threads of this subject and most have had a similar outcome: a dev locking the thread and saying they are trying to fix it with coming up with a new system. This is all true and the best virtue we can have right now is patience. I know it can be frustrating grinding for x numbers of hours by yourself and with friends to find nothing and then have someone who just joins the run on wave 12 get a Water. But this is the system and you can’t do anything about it. So right now the best way to help the devs is probably by getting along either the current system an leaving them more time to work on the new system, think about the amount of time it takes a dev to read a thread like this is the time he is losing on developing a new system. So if you stop posting thread like this it will do more help than hindrance and I am sure the devs are quite aware of the current situation so there is no reason to bring it up again.
Secondly legendary drops: the amount of frustration on ts and on the forums about who the legendries are going to is huge. Many older players (definition of older player: a person who has been playing this game along time) who have not received a legendary are quite rightly annoyed and frustrated about people who have been play for a few months or less getting a drop while they have grinded carried and helped level many redshirts and have gotten nothing. At this point many people are pulling out the deserving and undeserving card. This is not true nobody can be truly deserving or undeserving seeing as everyone has equal chance. But Madjosh has stated that “older” players are getting frustrated over who these drops are going to. This is true I have spent many nights on ts listening to the frustration these “older” players have. I don’t think of myself as a older player or a player deserving a legendary but I too have been frustrated about who the drops are going to. I have no right to be frustrated but I am because I am human. Many of the people getting these legendries are the ones relying on the “older” players to carry them to Odin/Ragnar. What many people in this thread have been saying is “is there a way to create a system where the “older” players have more chance of a drop and for leechers and people getting carried to have less chance” this is not right and I doubt whether it is even possible. As it is impossible for a computer to establish who and who hasn’t contributed to the team. So to finish off on my second point I will say yes the drop rate has to be re-established so that everyone is happy but still so it fair for new players to get far in this game
So for a final say will tell you my feelings and what I have established has the feelings of the other players. I believe like everyone else that the drop rates for legendries’ and green drops have to be redone. I do not see myself as an old player, experienced player, deserving player, good player or a veteran player seeing has I am none of them. I can understand why “older” players are frustrated that they carry many new players to Odin kills and such. These “older” players sometimes actually quite like carrying player because they can teach them the ropes and I have seen many very good players emerge from the people I and my friends have carried. It is the players the refuse to help the team or accept advise from that these “older” players get frustrated at because seemingly to them these players get legendries. So on a closing note I agree that my post is probably pointless and makes no sense but I am just trying to keep the peace and point out everyone is right and the there is no point in complaining to the devs as they already know about it. So I hope no one gets hurt from this post and if they do it wasn’t intended I am just trying to point out everyone is right
Best Regards Hawkens
Firstly Green drops: I have seen and read countless threads of this subject and most have had a similar outcome: a dev locking the thread and saying they are trying to fix it with coming up with a new system. This is all true and the best virtue we can have right now is patience. I know it can be frustrating grinding for x numbers of hours by yourself and with friends to find nothing and then have someone who just joins the run on wave 12 get a Water. But this is the system and you can’t do anything about it. So right now the best way to help the devs is probably by getting along either the current system an leaving them more time to work on the new system, think about the amount of time it takes a dev to read a thread like this is the time he is losing on developing a new system. So if you stop posting thread like this it will do more help than hindrance and I am sure the devs are quite aware of the current situation so there is no reason to bring it up again.
Secondly legendary drops: the amount of frustration on ts and on the forums about who the legendries are going to is huge. Many older players (definition of older player: a person who has been playing this game along time) who have not received a legendary are quite rightly annoyed and frustrated about people who have been play for a few months or less getting a drop while they have grinded carried and helped level many redshirts and have gotten nothing. At this point many people are pulling out the deserving and undeserving card. This is not true nobody can be truly deserving or undeserving seeing as everyone has equal chance. But Madjosh has stated that “older” players are getting frustrated over who these drops are going to. This is true I have spent many nights on ts listening to the frustration these “older” players have. I don’t think of myself as a older player or a player deserving a legendary but I too have been frustrated about who the drops are going to. I have no right to be frustrated but I am because I am human. Many of the people getting these legendries are the ones relying on the “older” players to carry them to Odin/Ragnar. What many people in this thread have been saying is “is there a way to create a system where the “older” players have more chance of a drop and for leechers and people getting carried to have less chance” this is not right and I doubt whether it is even possible. As it is impossible for a computer to establish who and who hasn’t contributed to the team. So to finish off on my second point I will say yes the drop rate has to be re-established so that everyone is happy but still so it fair for new players to get far in this game
So for a final say will tell you my feelings and what I have established has the feelings of the other players. I believe like everyone else that the drop rates for legendries’ and green drops have to be redone. I do not see myself as an old player, experienced player, deserving player, good player or a veteran player seeing has I am none of them. I can understand why “older” players are frustrated that they carry many new players to Odin kills and such. These “older” players sometimes actually quite like carrying player because they can teach them the ropes and I have seen many very good players emerge from the people I and my friends have carried. It is the players the refuse to help the team or accept advise from that these “older” players get frustrated at because seemingly to them these players get legendries. So on a closing note I agree that my post is probably pointless and makes no sense but I am just trying to keep the peace and point out everyone is right and the there is no point in complaining to the devs as they already know about it. So I hope no one gets hurt from this post and if they do it wasn’t intended I am just trying to point out everyone is right
Best Regards Hawkens