NI, is it worth the grind?

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Then why bother stating that "opinions change" if yours hasn't, since the purpose of this thread was no doubt to state your opinion on the drop system

i am not the only one with an opinion here and other peoples opinions are often subject to change.

once again in regards to your arguments over drop rates. people aren't happy with them you even note yourself that there have been threads of a similar nature for a long time. take a second to read what the players are asking in these threads...is there a "lower the drop rates thread anywhere?". it is obvious that the drop rates a too low for the community's liking (maybe except you). yes you try to stress the changing nature of drop rates and how they cannot be accurately described. and yet here you are demanding exact data. the answer to your argument is no an exact idea of the drop rates cannot be given. however what is apparent is the current distaste amongst the community when it comes to green drops what do they want? more drops when do they want them? now. you also accuse me of exhibit scare tactics. forgive me if im wrong but when the people aren't happy with something they disconnect themselves from it. no players no mod simple. if that scares you then im sorry but sometimes we have to face the real world (you can't deny that more and more people are going AFG hell one guy even expresses the issues raised here as a reason for his leave). and this business about getting nothing useful from my posts...and how they offer no help or solution to the problems addressed. that in itself is entire hypocrisy, i haven't heard a single suggestion from you about how to solve these problems. in short im sorry that i don't have all the data at hand, but denying the problem completely because of a lack of this data is not helpful at all.

Which is further addressed as you whining and moaning for months about how your special group isn't getting drops

im not even going to bother quoting you on the rest of that paragraph as it is just plain bigotry. However i will offer you some stats as you love them so much, (14 rag events 11-12 legendaries) compare that with the 252 rag runs...a fair system im sure. on back on the topic of afk/leechers would you have me believe that "hey it's only illegal unless you get caught?" you forget that it takes time to boot up a game let alone find an admin willing to do so before a boss wave (as a leecher/afk is determined over a period of time not a split second)

What house leader? Given the next statement, I assume you are talking about Dan. Dan is clearly the whiniest and the one who exaggerates the most. There is not a single person who, in one month of daily ragnarok runs, has received only a hardened leathe

where is YOUR stats and evidence for this one? and to clarify i never admitted that he was exaggerating, however i can't prove it's truthfulness neither can you prove against it.

Well, if you want me too.

now you assume that a player who owns a dep shield and tier 1 armour has to be poor?, that was merely an example. a rich player could just as easily equip those items and they too would be of less help than someone else to the team. there is no quote of me saying that the high tiered players should not have to help level the red shirts (in fact i was questioning someone's response in regards to private servers being re-introduced "and why should the high tier players have to help the redshirts" i believe it was more along those lines). you do some translations and end up with the conclusion that high level players should not have to help level the redshirts... why have a level cap on hard and ragnarok? lets remove it shall we because that's were all the elitist's hang out. as you can see segregation is present in NI whether you like it or not.

There is no way to tell who is trying hard and who is not. Maybe he is just really bad at the game, or he doesn't understand English and therefor can't understand what you are saying? He isn't trying any less hard, he just doesn't get as good of results for it.

that's preposterous, i'll go put my shield up in a corner and watch you tube videos  after all im not trying just as hard but i get worse results (the fact is they're better of for it) the point being....yes it is hard to tell leech from hero but there are many ways to circumvent leechers without going to the effort of logging into irc and waiting for an admin to launch the game before the leecher gets lucky. Usain offered the idea of having an assassin spawn behind afkers this i realise does not solve the entire problem in regards to leechers but it is a start so building upon usain's sugestion i will offer a sought of solution...

upon the instance of an afker perhaps a unique boss could appear behind them and attempt to kill them. let's call it a random event (yes it is copied from another game) the players alive who are not afking could then proceed to kill this unique mob for the chance at some unique rewards (thus compensating the team somewhat for the afk leech in their ranks)


i welcome you to post again, but i can sense your opinions are already made so i won't be trying to change them as this has gone on for long enough