NI, is it worth the grind?

[Harlaus]

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Harlaus let me just point out this was meant to be a discussion or debate if you will... not a slur campaign like you seem to think it is for some strange reason, I mean how offensive can you be, constantly calling players (myself included im sure when you say "Your group") whiners among things, Why have you taken such offense to this thread?? It is a issue that is constantly brought back into light so obviously there is a issue here that needs to be answered by a DEV and not other people talking for them. 

To be clear, you were not included when I said "Your group". There are two to three Vlka persons in that who know who they are. I did not intend it to be and do not want it to be interpreted as a blanket statement about Vlka and its members. The reason I have taken the position I have, and said what I have in this thread is because this thread is a result of what is, to me, a despicable behaviour and one which I have no patience or tolerance for any longer. If that looks like a slur campaign to you, so be it. It is not something which I enjoy having to do, but I feel compelled to do so, since there appears to be no major expressed opposition to the idea. Furthermore, if this a discussion, as you said, then there is every reason why I should post. Whether or not this is a question a Dev should answer is irrelevant. You said this thread is a discussion. I have discussed. Also, I don't feel as though I was speaking for a Dev or any dev, nor have I intended to. I have said what is on my mind on this topic= you can interpret how I was speaking any way you want though.

Also while I'm typing about devs and talking for them, let me just point out a fact for you harlaus.
you seem to think that you know what the devs do behind the scenes on the mod constantly talking for them about things you have absolutely NO clue about...
Quote from: Harlaus on November 23, 2013, 12:49:59 PM
you should know that drop rates are being altered on a weekly if not daily basis to fit the idea of the dev team.
There is no possible way you know this...

I like to think we have always proven very responsive to issues raised by the community, especially in relation to loot, and drops are changed on a weekly and often daily basis.

There is every possible way I could know this, and I feel as though it was a fair statement to make on my part, given that Hyper himself said the same thing. In that regard I knew and know exactly what I was saying and I feel I am quite correct when I said it. I would have done the complete quote formatting, but since the topic was locked I was unable to. The thread can be found here: http://forum.nordinvasion.com/index.php?...#msg148600.

How about we try to keep it civilised from now on and if you have any major objections to this thread i suggest you do what mad josh said in the first place so you dont offend people like myself and alot of the other players he is talking about...

I have taken note to both your and Legends comment on my use of language and hopefully my future posts will appear less aggressive on this topic. I have already left notes in the posts where no offence was meant, and once more offer apologies if you or anyone felt unfairly offended by them.

I mean madjosh has done this in the most polite way possible only to have his thread bombed by you and it was a big harlaus rage bomb at that.

I stand by posting here, and what I said, albeit it was perhaps aggressive and I do apologize as said above.

I didn't even bother reading the last post from Harlaus.

So when was the last time you were playing NI with players instead of leaving due to it being a bad server?
I see long-winded posts and a lot of valid points from Harlaus, due to this being a forum however, when was the last time you stuck around with us for a rag run?

Well, just a few hours ago I played NI with people. I have not been participating in the ragnarok runs you describe for reasons which can either be assumed or I can provide through PM, Steam or IRC. I figure I should at least give you a response here.

Anyways, I've said most everything I have or desire to say, so there is little to no point in me giving continued responses since they would just be redundant. If anyone wants to continue this through PM, go ahead, since that is what I hear suggested from so many persons.