Kiting stuff, keep it here!

[Leberkass]

[quote author=Tarrod link=topic=24687.msg172536#msg172536 date=1396302067]
And if you blame some guys for being active and get a run a bit quicker than sorry, but then move your ads and be active instead of just moaning on runs and say during ranged waves brb and doing nothing. Ilt is the ranged guys of your team that kill those even if they have to go out of the afkers range and theycome back and moan about the ranged guys doing their job, then sorry then you are wrong in someservers, because it is the job that they kill the rangers even if it sometimes happen out of range.
Well deal with that most guys don't do it on purpose.
Greets Tarrod

So everyone who is not one of the 2 ranged people moving outside of assist exp of the rest is by definition afk? Not a shielder, a slasher, a healer, another ranged person, actually trying to do something? Yea, they're not moving out with the ranged ones, so they shouldn't be moaning, it's totally their own fault!
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Why should there only be 2 ranged guys on a server. Most of the time, the majority of the players is in ranged mode. Can you imagine how often I saw guys on a public rag server who just stood around and needed 5 minutes to get the idea to tome and very often a lot of things such as a few tomes or cades just despawned, because the people alive just did nothing. And Maroon tbh you cannot lie, that that never happened on public servers. I never said public servers are bad, but just some communication of the team is missing, as you are not talking on Teamspeak or sending a PM on Steam.
And yes, the slashers are useless in my opinion for waves like the wave 18 on Ragnarok or on Hard, because the slashers will just get killed when they try to fight them in melee. For these waves it is the ranged Swadian Army, who speeds the run a bit up. And yes in my opinion for these waves you have to go sometimes out of ranged of the majority.
For example let´s take Hidden Cave. I like to play all modes there, but when you are shielder you are out of the xp range when they are shooting right in front of the Healing spot. And they do not run away and get out of range on purpose, because they want to steal the loot. No, they are just doing their job. I am not complaining about the map itself, just the xp range area, as Elmo said, needs to be a bit larger, so you want to shield on this map, because when I am shielding there, I think well there are my xp out of range. Sure it is annoying when a guy is kiting pikeman away from the majority and yes it is a big dick move, but then do not say that is the fault, because you can kite on this map, it is the person itself and his behaviour who leads him to what he is doing.

@human being: Yes, the maps Hande´s Retreat and Port Assault were too easy to kite, but when some people just post, naaaah nerf the maps kiting is ugly and it is too easy, then some people like me, Nka, Assassine, Alphaa or Wambo are just missing a part of NI which seems to dissapear from time to time, because some people just want to get kiting nerfed. I never said there shouldn´t be a change of the maps how they look like, but if you just nerf all maps and add nothing new where you can kite, no circle rounds needed, then I see that a lot of people are just annoyed of the mod.
It was a nice change, because you can still kite on some maps till wave 16 or so easily, but if you nerf some kiting maps, then you should give some maps a change and open some new kiting spots and tactics, so that the game never gets boring.
All I want to say is that when you nerf some maps at kiting you should not nerf all of them, that you are let them become really impossible to kite along, because then you just I don ´t know how to say it "right". You just let the guys feel like you want to get rid of kiting, but kiting is just another stile of playing NI and you should not get rid of it

Greets Tarrod