15-04-2014, 12:14 AM
(14-04-2014, 01:21 AM)Maroon link Wrote: While it might (might) be argued that borrowing stuff is too situational to be an effective counterargument, it's more that the absolute inability to join a server without a support item is overkill in my opinion. What about crossbowmen? What about semi-casual players, who can't afford a 300k obstacle? In fact, that gets me thinking. As an engineer, it is currently regarded as a near neccesity to have a SHC or better. And a medic? Medic boxes do fine on rag. So what about people who learn they need to have med boxes or a SHC? They check on the prices, and find they should either pay 300k or... 15k? Which of the 2 would randoms pick? The cheaper one, naturally. So how does that solve a lack of SHC on a random server? Instead, you'll get an abundance of med boxes.
And how about randoms who just started playing NI, and had already picked engineer as their support? They find that in order to be able to join, they'll have to save up for a SHC, which is a massive investment for them, in order to join rag in the first place.
All in all, I think there is indeed a shortage of cades on pub servers. However, I do not think it can or should be fixed by adding a requirement for people to join. Instead, I think we should look into the need to have that many cades in the first place. Why should we need to have 20 cades to hold a boss on rag? Isn't there any other option?
If you're level 32 or level 40 or whatever the requirement is, you can spend 13k or so on a barricade or 10k on a medic box.
Doesn't matter if you're a "casual player", fact is you're still level 32 or whatever, therefore you can afford 13k on a barricade, everyone can. If you can't, then obviously you don't care about the team enough so therefore you shouldn't be allowed in the hard/rag servers until you get BASIC support items, which you can pay assist xp for either way. Heck, im sure someone would even donate one to you if you made a thread saying "Hey i cant get into rag/hard, can someone please donate me a barricade/medic box so i can help the team as I dont have the funds".
People taking this thread way out of proportion, Simpleton is simply trying to say that a full hard server or full rag server should not have 2 barricades and nothing else in support. That is ridiculous.
Again, if you're playing Rag/Hard, you can afford 13k on a cade or 10k on a medic box IF THAT, if you can't, then play normal and get the necessary funds because you blew your money on war arrows or bear armour so you can do trickshots more easily.
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