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Legionnaire Shielding Skill
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As Winter said, the legionnaire does need something done. As Aigle noted, increasing athletics is not really so important, most actual gameplay involves little movement compared to the large times you spend standing still or moving only slightly, in those occasions speed doesn't really matter. Legionnaires who want their class to be competitive should note this, and instead aim for combat boosts rather than gimmicks like speed. I won't bother addressing Legionnaires who believe their class is equally powerful and just misused.

Legionnaire is a commando focused Pikeman, it just does really poorly at it. In most situations a Pikeman would do equal or better than a legionnaire. I don't think this was intentional but it's the ultimate outcome of making two classes designed to be hybrids of Slashing and Ranged(throwing). A pikeman will do better at slashing and throwing. The only advantage a legionnaire would have is speed and speed is a gimmick when you barely have to move and almost never will that movement be time critical.


The other major issue is the purpose of the class. Let's be honest, all of the classes that excel in one handed weapons are absolute garbage and inferior in every scenario to their counterparts. A Sniper would always benefit from more PD than having a stronger side arm, a Crossbowman would almost always benefit from the Accuracy bonus and additional of Chosen marksmen. The fact legionnaire's haven't caught on is a bit disturbing. Do you often go and kite/1hand waves? Probably not, you're probably comfy behind the shieldwall slashing or throwing and scoring two or three kills when you run out at the end, nothing substantial to benefit from.  All vulgar complaints can be sent in PM, I know at least one of you got offended by that.

That's the primary issue, there is no simple stat fix. Here's what I would suggest.
Give it access to Dragon Halberd, Thunder Pike, Swadian Halberd, Snake Weapons
- Normally this would be useless as the proficiencies dictate they will get damage and speed malus'. This is the fun part. Assign a duplicate of the DH and TP to be one handed weapons, so they benefit greatly from the legionnaires weapon focus, this would mean we don't have to make the Legionnaire proficient in polearms to merely benefit for five weapons, and most of you would never go for it. Well, you probably won't go for this either. The Swadian Halberd and Snake weapons would be duplicated to be two handed weapons. 
- Why do this? I agree it won't make much sense at first. This is for two reasons. The first is one handed weapons are an absolute joke, and the second is those five weapons are also jokes, though in a different way. This would make those weapons better, would be a substantial boost for the DH and TP, and would set these weapons apart from others thanks to hybrid classing, so their arguably inferior or arguably balanced stats can be made up for.
- The only counter I can think of is that it'd be dumb or legionnaire needs its own area to excel. That's fine, and when anyone can think of that area, and that area actually makes the class good, you can propose that instead. This is a somewhat more unique method to improve a set of weapons and a class at the same time, it'd also make legionnaire more attractive to those who already have a pikeman and want to trade speed and throwing damage for higher armor.

*slight edit*
You might want to buff the throwing prof to 200 as well, that's probably a good idea, a lot of people seem to think so at least.
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Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sargent Q - 08-07-2014, 02:07 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sosruko - 08-07-2014, 02:13 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sargent Q - 08-07-2014, 02:34 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sosruko - 08-07-2014, 02:43 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Suns - 08-07-2014, 05:24 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sargent Q - 09-07-2014, 02:38 AM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Suns - 09-07-2014, 04:25 AM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sosruko - 09-07-2014, 05:18 AM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by madjsoh - 09-07-2014, 05:40 AM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sargent Q - 09-07-2014, 01:11 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Suns - 09-07-2014, 06:17 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sosruko - 10-07-2014, 07:02 AM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sargent Q - 11-07-2014, 01:34 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Killer - 13-07-2014, 07:19 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sargent Q - 22-07-2014, 01:09 AM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Terath86 - 22-07-2014, 12:55 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sargent Q - 22-07-2014, 01:02 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by madjsoh - 22-07-2014, 02:41 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Deerheart - 22-07-2014, 03:01 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sargent Q - 22-07-2014, 03:15 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Terath86 - 22-07-2014, 03:30 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Winter - 22-07-2014, 07:08 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sargent Q - 22-07-2014, 08:54 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sargent Q - 22-07-2014, 09:17 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Suns - 22-07-2014, 09:29 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sargent Q - 22-07-2014, 09:38 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by maniek2895 - 22-07-2014, 09:42 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Maroon - 22-07-2014, 10:07 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sargent Q - 22-07-2014, 10:19 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Winter - 22-07-2014, 10:28 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by aigle_360 - 23-07-2014, 01:13 AM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Harlaus - 23-07-2014, 01:58 AM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sargent Q - 23-07-2014, 02:11 AM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by madjsoh - 23-07-2014, 05:44 AM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sosruko - 23-07-2014, 07:55 AM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Mr.Peso - 23-07-2014, 02:17 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Harlaus - 23-07-2014, 10:14 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Mr.Peso - 24-07-2014, 02:07 AM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sosruko - 24-07-2014, 04:16 AM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Weiner - 24-07-2014, 07:14 AM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sosruko - 24-07-2014, 08:13 AM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Winter - 24-07-2014, 08:27 AM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Maroon - 24-07-2014, 07:29 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Weiner - 24-07-2014, 10:53 PM
Re: Legionnaire Shielding Skill - by Sargent Q - 08-07-2014, 02:18 PM



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