Better boots for Pavise Champion.

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[quote author=Tarrod link=topic=30151.msg191657#msg191657 date=1407335349]
[quote author=Maroon link=topic=30151.msg191644#msg191644 date=1407330630]
Because an increase in survivability is a Pavise Champion trait, not an Aventurier one.

But tbh no Bot will ever aim for boots, expect ranged guys and that still does not save your life.
I support this idea, but I think some other hero classes may have a use of these boots aswell, because you get acces to Aegis and SoK when you reach Pavise.
So I would support the suggestion that every hero class can use the Swadian Boots more than only Pavise
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If Nords don't aim for the leg, why would any class need boots then? When you're standing on a slope or sitting on horseback, leg armor is very important, and since the Pavise is supposed to be the tanky crossbowman hero, it's only logical that it should be the only one with access to it. Though something between Plated Boots and Swadian Boots for Sharpshooters in general would be nice.
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I said only ranged guys aim for feets and body, or did you ever see a melee guy aiming for your boots?
And believe me, if you have shielded hundreds of Hard and Rag Runs you know what you are talking about, if you get shoot or not. Especially the Jotne and Sniper wave are deadly, but no melee guy attacks your boots, only your head and body.

1: It's infinitely better than doing nothing having it as disliked and underpowered as it is now, if someone made a good post with a fix for the class that would be better, but no one has done that yet, and I don't expect to see it soon.

2: The Adventurier focus' on one handed skill. However, it gains no survivability bonus to actually make use of its higher melee skills in any real way. Now, I'll say the melee bonus is useless anyways, but that's irrelevant right now. It can't use anything it gets, so the best option is giving it stuff so that it can use what it gets. Giving it more armor would complement the idea of it being competent at melee, and it would make it more interesting as a class. Even if you don't give it more armor, doing nothing and leaving it broken in the name of class purity is a joke.

Exactly. I would rather support more items for classes that are used not so often as Legionnaire, Sentinel, Ranger, Aventurier or Halberdier.
Those classes rather need new items than classes like Pavise Champion. Sure Pavise is chosen to be a shielding tank next to the Commandos. But the idea to give Pavise and Aventurier the acces to Swadian Boots, would bring the Aventurier class more close to the most liked Chosen Marksman class.

But would giving buffs that are concerning a different area than that specific class not make that balance all over the place? That would be like giving the Legionnaire more 2-handed wpf, or the Sentinel heavy armor.

The actual "job" of a Pavise Champion is shooting and shielding if there is noone else or am I wrong? Not arguing like a tank and rush the enemies, because that is the job of the Commandos or Halberdiers.
So it would also be kind of the same buff a Sentinel has got with heavier armor. A buff would be really nice for Sentinel, but definitely not out of the class's job.
Yours most sincerely
Tarrod

PS: Not offending anyone, but this is my statement to this topic.