Halberdier Change

[Irolltwenties]

Gonna nip some in the bud here, quite an interesting debate. I'd advice against giving the Halberdier both 9 shielding and better shields. I agree they should have more shields available, but 9 shielding seems to me as overdoing it somewhat.

Comparing some stats here:

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Commando + Legionnaire One handed: 240 Two handed: 185 Polearm: 80 Archery: 20 Crossbow: 20 Throwing: 170 Power draw: 1 Power throw: 5 Power strike: 8 Ironflesh: 6 Athletics: 7 Shield: 8

Commando + Royal Guard One handed: 200 Two handed: 185 Polearm: 110 Archery: 20 Crossbow: 85 Throwing: 60 Power draw: 1 Power throw: 2 Power strike: 8 Ironflesh: 7 Athletics: 7 Shield: 10

Pikeman + Halberdier One handed: 130 Two handed: 120 Polearm: 190 Archery: 20 Crossbow: 20 Throwing: 300 Power draw: 1 Power throw: 6 Power strike: 7 Ironflesh: 8 Athletics: 8 Shield: 9

Looking mainly at the difference between the proposed Halberdier and the Legionnaire, the Halberdier would completely outclass the Legionnaire, with better shielding, better throwing, and stronger melee weapons, at the cost of some armor.
Compared to the Royal Guard, it would be somewhat better balanced than my previous example, but giving up one Shield point, some armor, and one handed proficiency for 300 throwing proficiency, polearms, and the same shields doesn't seem entirely balanced to me.

So I'd say give the Halberdier the same shields the Pavise can use, bar the Tower Shield, and you're golden.

Another person with a less than well thought out argument.  By your own reasoning you say that Halberdier would then outclass Legionnaire with "with better shielding, better throwing, and stronger melee weapons, at the cost of some armor".

Legionnaire       
1H 240
2H 185
PS 8

Halberdier
1H 130
2H 120
PS 7

You have no argument.  Halberdier is a better thrower and they clearly should be and while they outclass the Legionnaire in WPF they only have 1 more Power Throw.  Legionnaire also has access to some of the best armor in the entire game.  Halberdier has access to a crafted with 60 armor. Lol. 60.  They also have access to EFS I believe which is better.

I say lets try it.  It isn't as big a change as people are making it out to be.  I don't understand the blowback and yet it is completely acceptable bar nothing that Pavise can shield with 9 and then step off the line with a Bolt Tosser and 1 shot Rag mode enemies.  That is silly.