The Item and Class Stat Balance Thread

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Has aurora been overbuffed? Does EK deserve a better spot in the roster of slashing weapons? I'd like to hear other opinions on the matter, feel free to disagree

Ab was way over buffed yes. The 60c buff was already pretty dumb then it got moved to 62c lol

If they needed a bastard on par with durendal then they should of just added a new one in. Not insanely buffing a cheap sword.

Ah, yes, opinions.  Everyone has one.  However, let's not let our opinions make our tone... less than friendly.

Aurora Blade wasn't always the cheapo waster a lot of people see it as today and was actually considered on par with VGS/AGS for a fair period of time.  Prices rise and fall and should not dictate the stats/tier of a legendary item.  You'd be amazed at what many of the common legendaries nowadays used to go for when compared to the prices of top tier items back then...  An item that would be worth 7 Sun Pikes now was considered only a few million balance over one then.

In my mind, the stats of the Aurora should be around equal to the EK and its tier closer to that of the AGS/VGS, following the idea of bastards being slightly worse in 2h stats than swords of the same tier to make up for their versatility.  I'm all for removing stab altogether on the EK, but I'd like to give a chance for counterarguments and don't really see a compelling reason to remove that from an item that has had it for so long.  The stat suggestions so far have been interesting, but we'll see where the discussion goes.

Speaking of the discussion, please try to keep it to stat suggestions, not just throwing out your opinion that things are bad.  That doesn't really add much to the conversation.

Thank you Winter, is nice to have a developer's insight on the matter. If you intended Aurora as the top tier bastard sword then its stats are fine right now related to the best 2h swords aviable, and now i understand that the value given by the community should not be relevant. But still, i personally feel the EK lacks an identity right now: VGS/AGS is a slashing 2h, Aurora is the jack of all trades, and EK is the thing that rich players equip on archers to "show off". Changes would be welcome to EK just to give the item a more "unique" essence, to have somenthing that is not just the 2h version of aurora with similar stats but different graphic model. Don't get me wrong, i'm saying to make EK better because AB is good, but just make the 2 sword a bit different stat-wise, since a direct comparison is not possible as we already established that AB is on a "higher tier" on the legendary scale. How to make it different is for you to decide (in the hypothesis you really feel such a change to be necessary), but i personally like the stab removal in favour of a speed/damge buff, as someone already suggested.

Just for the sake of understanding, i'm not saying any item is bad or something like that, i'm just trying to justify why the changes suggested may be welcome. I'm not very experienced in NI, i played for just 3 months, so the way i precieve things may not be the same of a veteran player that saw the evolution of the mod throughout years. I'm open to confrontation, tell me what you think