23-01-2017, 02:24 AM
(23-01-2017, 02:08 AM)LordChaos Wrote: It's pretty much because maybe Talewolrds didn't expect that kind of situation I guess. If you want to be sure of their point of view, I guess it would be better to make contact with them and see their position.
Even if this would be an unintended consequence that they meant to address or would currently want to address now, they currently haven't. This would hardly be the first time people potentially took advantage of loopholes. And even if they did, it's not against their agreement.
(23-01-2017, 02:08 AM)LordChaos Wrote: "2. Ownership. All title, ownership rights and intellectual property rights in and to the Program and any and all copies thereof (including but not limited to any titles, computer code, themes, objects, characters, character names, stories, dialog, catch phrases, locations, concepts, artwork, animations, sounds, musical compositions, audio-visual effects, methods of operation, moral rights, any related documentation, and "applets" incorporated into the Program) are owned by Paradox Interactive AB or its licensors."
The Program is protected by the copyright laws of the United States, international copyright treaties and conventions, and other laws. All rights are reserved. The Program contains certain licensed materials, and Paradox Interactive AB's licensors may protect their rights in the event of any violation of this Agreement. The Program may access websites owned, controlled by, or operated by licensed affiliates of Paradox Interactive AB and receive patches and/or updates to the Program from these websites. All patches, updates or other downloadable material used by, or incorporated into, the Program are the copyrighted property of Paradox Interactive AB or its licensors who reserve all rights therein, and shall be governed by the terms and conditions of this Agreement.
-> Which includes also modder's models, which is why they are listed here: https://nordinvasion.com/about.php
C. You are entitled to use the Program for your own use, but you are not entitled to: (iii) use or allow third parties to use the Editor and the New Materials created thereby for commercial purposes, including, but not limited to, distribution of New Materials on a stand-alone basis or packaged with other software or hardware through any and all distribution channels, including, but not limited to, retail sales and on-line electronic distribution, without the express written consent of Paradox Interactive AB;
-> You are not selling the file, but the model which is virtually accessible. We are third parties as end users, aswell as the creators of the new materials. So even if someone would sell a virtual currency or "trick it" into virtual currency value to commercialize is it would be seen as a retail sale. Which once again needs the approval of Paradox AB & the creators of the models.
It is not prohibiting it directly, because the case wasn't maybe supposed to occur, and as you can read, it is said that these cases are to have consent of Paradox Interactive AB & the licensors. Pretty sure they would just update the EULA if they would be asked about it.
The seller isn't selling the model either, just access to the items for their game accounts. This is not equivalent to selling any piece of the actual software. As for the C clause:
(23-01-2017, 01:11 AM)Malong Wrote: None of that is what is now allowed in NI. Again, people aren't selling the game files ("patches, updates or other downloadable material"). Nor is this the same as using the "Editor" and "New Materials" (which you don't include the section of the agreement defining these proper nouns) for commercial purposes. Were any of the contributed game materials sold? No.
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