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Warden Vs Master peltast
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(09-09-2017, 02:22 PM)Coconut Wrote: I think tyhpoon+zephyr should be at least 66p, or give warden +1 power draw

Buffing the highest end of items that hardly anyone has won't fix any of the issues with the classes you claim, especially when over half of the volume of your argument relates to weight/run speed and kiting, in which I do agree you have a point.

Adding power draw to archer would only increase the amount of time you can hold your aim closed at this point.  This also would have no effect on the issues you claim.

I am not sure that Warden does outdo Master Peltast in ranged.  In my experience, it was always skilled Wardens like Tsuki and Nka at the top, followed by well-geared Master Peltasts like Sargeant Q.  I wonder if top-tier ranged players and kiters could weigh in on this.

(09-09-2017, 04:01 PM)Leandero Wrote: I would love it if the Warden would shoot 2 arrows at once at roughly the same point.

Regarding the penetration: the  bows could get a chance to pierce. Increasing with tier making the orange and red legendary bows the top 2 piercing bow tiers. 

The athletics is an other story, decreasing the weight of the archers armour and giving + 1 athletics would get the archer more in line with the pikemen with kiting. The archers would still be more squishy (except maybe the Rangers) but at least the mobility might save you when you have lighter armour. I do get why the pikemen need more armour as they are more likely to melee. In general the archers armour weighs more and gives less armour value.

The hard part is balancing these changes in a way that the archer doesn't become the "flavour of the update" hero. Making others demand buffs etcetera.

Kip has stated very firmly that Swadians will never shoot multiple arrows and Hypernoma has stated archers will never have "true" shield penetration (as opposed to shooting over the top at the head, even though it is visually covered by the model).  I doubt either of these decisions will change.

The athletics and weight arguments are agreeable.

Flavor of the month -> power creep confirmed.
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Warden Vs Master peltast - by Coconut - 09-09-2017, 02:22 PM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Bobo - 09-09-2017, 02:51 PM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Coconut - 09-09-2017, 03:04 PM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Leandero - 09-09-2017, 04:01 PM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Bobo - 09-09-2017, 06:04 PM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Winter - 09-09-2017, 07:45 PM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Coconut - 09-09-2017, 10:12 PM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Winter - 09-09-2017, 10:29 PM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Nka19 - 09-09-2017, 11:30 PM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Stillicho - 10-09-2017, 12:20 AM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Winter - 10-09-2017, 12:28 AM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Stillicho - 10-09-2017, 02:23 AM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Sargent Q - 10-09-2017, 01:11 AM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by DR. - 10-09-2017, 03:02 AM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Narvad - 10-09-2017, 09:46 AM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Stillicho - 10-09-2017, 10:17 PM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by DR. - 11-09-2017, 07:12 AM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Narvad - 11-09-2017, 08:24 AM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Stillicho - 12-09-2017, 12:09 AM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Coconut - 11-09-2017, 09:49 AM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by DR. - 11-09-2017, 11:26 AM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Narvad - 12-09-2017, 09:23 AM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Stillicho - 12-09-2017, 08:43 PM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Alphaa - 12-09-2017, 11:07 PM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Stillicho - 12-09-2017, 11:14 PM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Narvad - 13-09-2017, 02:01 PM
RE: Warden Vs Master peltast - by Winter - 13-09-2017, 02:37 PM



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