30-03-2018, 05:53 PM
(30-03-2018, 04:25 PM)Winter Wrote:I don't now if madjosh owns it I'm waiting for evidence that a dev could see or I would believe.(30-03-2018, 03:31 PM)Soviet Wrote: The example I provided shows someone being banned for selling items belonging to someone else. Woody referred to it as a de[b]t, so clearly he knew the item belongs to Madjosh.
Woody referring to it as a debt in a conversation with PCK only proves that he acknowledges it as originally belonging to Madjosh now. It does not mean he knew it when it was sold. The case you brought up has logs of the recipient who later sold the item being expressly informed that the items in the trade are for borrowing, not selling. In this case, Woody claims to have been unaware that the Durendal belonged to Madjosh when he sold it (I was told that the item was improperly marked in the bank document, so return to Kaasovic's statement that VLKA could use some better record keeping...) and I have seen no evidence to the contrary so far.
It would be nice if actual logs of Benschie's handing over of VLKA bank to Woody were made available, or, even better, if Benschie himself could weigh in on this. I'm not sure how he'd feel about VLKA's attitude towards a well-standing, long-time, dedicated member like Madjosh in this situation.
It seems every one has misinformation/has not understand why I worded my conversation with pck. Playing the mule or just going along with trades is something I do when I feel like it could give me more information about my target. That should be obvious to anyone that's good in trading. I can tell you I got the basic info that you would only except stuff of your choosing and not my own. Just that is a red flag for me... getting paid anything would be sufficient yet trying to ask for shit the bank does not have or does not want to sell is ridiculous when the claim is so week.
Vlka doc has been updated to the best we can do. Sure all of the gear came from some were in the beginning but that was lost before I was even in vlka. Before I joined there was no up-to-date list for who owns what just what Ben told me and even then he was not sure about most of the stuff other than his own.
Logs of me becoming leader and having access the the bank are lost to steam records. As it was what 2016? I know I made the vlkamats I'd and it was not Ben that changed the pw. I will show this to Ben but his already seen it
His just as clue less as we all are to who owns what atm. We agree it could be a possibility he owns it but I, the active vlka members and ben think we would still want better evidence rather than a he/she said. So far the arguments could be made by almost any old vlka member and once again I would have no idea if there was any turth to the claim. For most old vlka people this would not be a problem as if they are still in vlka I would let them use more gear.
It's 5am so gl reading. I will fix major mistakes tomorrow if need be.