suggestions for Ranger/Halb and Jugg

[Malong]

I view Forward's argument in a similar way - many of the classes are not optimal, but some people enjoy playing them for different reasons, so it is worth having them as options, just like being a vampire is an option and you can get by without it, you just won't have optimal stats.

I agree with that stance. But in my view it's a big double standard for someone to pick the class claiming they want it for fun and enjoyment instead of maximum efficiency (which these people often claim they don't care about), and then turn around and ask for buffs to that class so it can be more competitive (again when they claimed they didn't care about it in the first place). At this point of the game, people know what they are signing up for when they train those classes.