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(13-11-2019, 05:41 AM)Woody Wrote:
(12-11-2019, 03:44 PM)Malong Wrote:
(12-11-2019, 09:38 AM)Woody Wrote:
(12-11-2019, 06:59 AM)Malong Wrote: For me, it's because it's the same gameplay without better rewards.

So his the question then would you make rag harder knowing as an outcome you can give it better rewards.

I have not said anything about rewards when making rag harder as it would be a messy subject. If rag got harder by 5% even tho that can't really be measured easily I don't expect the buff in reward to be big. Something like this for example. Like 1.25x gold and XP then no change to drop rate.

Idk my point is If we up the skill cap of rag we can make it have better rewards than atm. Before people say is that just making the rich richer well yea... but as I said I'm up for a system like this.

If it was possible to quantify, the ratio of "reward increase" to "difficulty increase" is more than one, then yes. So yes to your example. This will never happen though.

Why so sceptical about posable change to a system that's been the same for years at this point. Yes, it has been the same for years so maybe in a way, it's still fine but its the community that's constantly changing variable. We have outgrown the rag.

No, the part that I think will never happen is Ragnarok getting "harder by 5%" culminating in "1.25x gold and XP." He gave me permission to show chat:

Quote:[1:04 AM]
darkpck:
I have not said anything about rewards when making rag harder as it would be a messy subject. If rag got harder by 5% even tho that can't really be measured easily I don't expect the buff in reward to be big. Something like this for example. Like 1.25x gold and XP then no change to drop rate.
that's his quote

[1:04 AM]
Terath:
that's a fucking lot, woody.
rewards can be content if they lead to actual substantial goals or achievements, but all this would do is reward people more for doing the same thing but marginally harder.
no thanks lol

(13-11-2019, 05:41 AM)Woody Wrote: Don't you question why you are commenting on a subject to this degree when you think it has no chance to happen?  Do you think me and you are in the minority or the majority for wanting rag to be harder given as a side effect it can have a better reward? Do you think I'm in the minority or the majority for wanting rag to get harder not just for the reward but the rush of actually needing to think for once rather than rag events being on autopilot just about? 

  1. No, why would discussing feasibility be bad?
  2. I don't know. Personally, it depends what the difficulty change would be and what the rewards increase would be.
  3. Probably majority. Stale gameplay with bad rewards has led to players leaving.

(13-11-2019, 05:41 AM)Woody Wrote: We have 4 modes... If rag gets harder to the point public teams cant complete it from a lack of communication before and in the run, they still have the 3 other modes... All modes could just get harder to the point beginner is normal and hard is rag and rag is fucked. That's the extreme side of things that could maybe make me happy but I think that's going too far. My aim is to find the middle ground. 

I think beginner servers are a waste for how its set up atm. I would still have it focused around low levels but I think the question ill ask is tr3 or even tr4 not a low level in today's age? It can also be said I would be in favour of making tr1-tr4 better than they currently are but that a different subject altogether. 

I think I would make beginner harder to the point the new beginner is in between the old beginner and normal in terms of difficulty. As a side effect of getting harder the level cap goes to maybe 39 or so. This also means the xp and gold can be better than it was. [risk/reward].

Not happening:

Quote:[1:01 AM]
Terath:
he calls you sceptical about a new mode and then unintentionally proceeds to explain how that would be a bad idea to implement
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[1:03 AM]
Terath:
the takeaway is that difficulty is not content

(13-11-2019, 05:41 AM)Woody Wrote: We already have the item dev Terath that wants to do so much to this mod and rebalancing stuff is on the table or already in queue. 

Quote:[1:10 AM]
Terath:
okay i read it again. what does "rebalancing stuff" mean to him? what's with the vague references and then no explanation?
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[1:41 AM]
darkpck:
so he says you're working on this rebalancing
which you don't know what he's talking about.

[1:41 AM]
Terath:
yeah pretty much
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Make toming safe after a prayer - by Forward - 10-11-2019, 01:10 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by DR. - 10-11-2019, 02:02 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by DR. - 10-11-2019, 03:03 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Forward - 10-11-2019, 03:36 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Fendi - 10-11-2019, 04:23 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Forward - 10-11-2019, 05:17 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Fendi - 10-11-2019, 10:09 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Forward - 10-11-2019, 11:39 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by DR. - 11-11-2019, 05:24 AM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Forward - 11-11-2019, 01:59 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by DR. - 11-11-2019, 04:00 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Malong - 11-11-2019, 07:08 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by DR. - 12-11-2019, 03:13 AM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Malong - 12-11-2019, 03:53 AM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by DR. - 12-11-2019, 05:52 AM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Malong - 12-11-2019, 06:59 AM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by DR. - 12-11-2019, 09:38 AM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Malong - 12-11-2019, 03:44 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Malong - 12-11-2019, 05:07 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Malong - 12-11-2019, 06:25 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Forward - 12-11-2019, 06:31 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Malong - 12-11-2019, 06:33 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Forward - 12-11-2019, 06:41 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Malong - 12-11-2019, 06:52 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Forward - 12-11-2019, 07:00 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Malong - 12-11-2019, 07:03 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Malong - 12-11-2019, 07:39 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Malong - 12-11-2019, 08:35 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Malong - 12-11-2019, 10:12 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Malong - 13-11-2019, 03:00 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by DR. - 13-11-2019, 04:28 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Malong - 13-11-2019, 04:42 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by DR. - 14-11-2019, 03:46 AM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Forward - 11-11-2019, 06:15 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Forward - 11-11-2019, 10:49 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by DR. - 12-11-2019, 12:29 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Berkay - 12-11-2019, 07:24 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by DR. - 13-11-2019, 05:41 AM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Malong - 13-11-2019, 06:41 AM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by DR. - 13-11-2019, 07:39 AM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Terath - 13-11-2019, 07:00 AM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Xen - 13-11-2019, 05:25 PM
RE: Make toming safe after a prayer - by Malong - 14-11-2019, 04:57 AM



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