11-01-2013, 09:38 PM
(11-01-2013, 09:26 PM)Lemon link Wrote:[quote author=Ragnash link=topic=8828.msg72771#msg72771 date=1357933527]
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Some more gold, got some more mats.
Also interested in a Sharpshooter Bow and War Arrows for my Heavy Longbowmen, soon to be Sniper.
How about sharpshooter bow for all your hardened metal?
Can also sell war arrows for 150k.
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Those prices are far far too steep. I'm pretty sure I could get the Bow and War Arrows combined for 550k or 600k.
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...seriously? Sure, you might find someone desperate to sell you cheaper. But I don't and never will sell under crafting cost. Also I am giving you some leeway in letting hardened metal be 5.8k when I and many other people also never buy for higher than 5k.
Just a quick guide below, bare in mind all those quoted prices on materials are ON or BELOW what they are actually worth.
Sharpshooter
15 x Flemish String (3'500 g each) = 52500
10 x Oil (12'000 g each) = 120000
5 x Quality Candle (25 g each)
40 x Sturdy Wood (1'000 g each) = 40000
100 x Twisted String (2'000 g each) = 200000
10 x Wood of Glasir (15'000 g each) = 150000
Total = 562500
War Arrows
5 x Blade Shard (16'000 g each) = 80000
3 x Flemish String (3'500 g each) = 10500
10 x Hardened Metal (5'000 g each) = 50000
2 x Oil (12'000 g each) = 24000
15 x Sturdy Wood (1'000 g each) = 15000
Total = 179500
I saw your striped armor 'deal' offer too, if you continue to offer unbalanced deals. You may soon find yourself not able to trade with anyone.
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Its not fair to value items at material prices. Materials are open ended, crafted items are not. In addition, because there is no cost to crafting items (the crafter actually benefits and will actively seek out to craft for free), mats are worth more than the end item. I understand if you want to value it at the mats, but when I can buy for less, I'm not going to buy for more.
And my Striped Armor offer netted someone willing to sell at 350k. My offer is not out of line. Also, if so many people (3-4 people) are selling for 400k and no one is biting. Material cost is easily over 500k. I offer low and people will bid up naturally. If I start at 350k, they'll probably want 375k or 400k. I don't want to pay that (especially as I want to get a slight profit out of it).
And if almost no one buys Hardened Metal at over 5k, why are so many people willing to buy at 5.5k? I myself don't buy at that price, but you pay for convenience of not having to wait and getting it in bulk. If you don't want to value at 5.8k, don't buy from me.
Sometimes my prices aren't exactly fair, but sometimes I don't want the items and only want to buy at something safe. If you want to buy something now, or no one cares for your item, then its the trade off. Convenience of instant money versus spending excess time trading.
I am actually extremely interested in e-economies (and I study Finance in college so I guess right career path) and this one is tiny compared to a lot of the ones I've been in. There are definitely issues like not being able to trade with anyone. But if I really want it, I would offer what I would offer. Its like your comment on Twigs. Price is relative and always in flux.
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The point is I pride myself on offering trades that people want. You put those items on your wish list implying you wanted them, I offered you them at a fair and reasonable price, and you refused. There is fair and honest trading and then there is running a cut throat business. Obviously by your posts and your analysis of the NI economy you are intending on making your trades as the latter. Which is fine, a lot of people have made a lot of money that way, people do also get good deals by offering people what they want.
Anyway, best of luck in your endeavors.