Legendaries and the average green drop.

[Ragnash]

Yeah that would work as well I guess. Nice to get something for technically beating the game. I don't necessarily like the idea of 100% because I enjoy the chance/risk factor involved in the whole thing. Either way I'm happy with how it is now and would probably be happy with whatever changes are made, tbh I just want to play.

So you are saying there should be a chance of getting absolutely nothing from killing all nords from wave 1-20? There is still a chance/risk factor of getting 1 x Old Boot from Odin or whatever they decide the worst drop would be if the idea was implemented.

[bossculeur]

I think it's fine for there to be a chance of getting nothing in a full round. That's how any chance system will work and over enough hours the drops will mostly even out (there will be some outliers... cough cough winter). The 100% system would work but I don't see there being much difference between getting one old boot and getting nothing anyways so it doesn't matter. Either system will have a risk factor and we're just debating the severity of that factor I guess.

[Ragnash]

I think it's fine for there to be a chance of getting nothing in a full round. That's how any chance system will work and over enough hours the drops will mostly even out (there will be some outliers... cough cough winter). The 100% system would work but I don't see there being much difference between getting one old boot and getting nothing anyways so it doesn't matter. Either system will have a risk factor and we're just debating the severity of that factor I guess.

The only reason I am continuing the discussion is because you are saying you just want to play and are the first person in this topic to imply the current system is fine as it is. You are saying you have no issue with playing the game for the rest of your life and having the statistically probability that you will never get a material drop ever again. So I am only pushing to get your side as it is lacking in this discussion.

I am just curious as to is the joy of playing really enough for people still, from the player opinions I have witnessed over the past many months, it does not seem to be the case until your comment.

[Alex]

hey were toying more with the possibility of 100% drop chance on Odin for example. With current legendary chance + the chance of looting materials as well. So that way something drops every time, it could just be either a legendary, a high-tier material or a low-end material.

I would support this suggestion too. Its pretty fair in my opinion, if they stay at high mats. Scales/Waters/Lumps/Zincs/Copper/Damascus/Eagle. It would be rly a waste of time if you get to Odin and get a Old Boot.

There are some nice ways how this could be better.

[bossculeur]

The only reason I am continuing the discussion is because you are saying you just want to play and are the first person in this topic to imply the current system is fine as it is. You are saying you have no issue with playing the game for the rest of your life and having the statistically probability that you will never get a material drop ever again. So I am only pushing to get your side as it is lacking in this discussion.

I am just curious as to is the joy of playing really enough for people still, from the player opinions I have witnessed over the past many months, it does not seem to be the case until your comment.

Hm... Getting me thinking. I guess I probably wouldn't have thought the same way a month ago before I have the gear I have now. Now that I'm a hero, have a defender shield, shc and other mid tier gear I feel like I can contribute well to pretty much any team and I'm no longer desperate to get a lot of money and get new gear. I enjoy hanging around with people in TS and just enjoy playing the game too. I know the drops are a big part of it but at the gear level I'm at now I would be happy to just play the game for the game.

This would also probably be different if I was at the top gear level. Since I don't see myself realistically competing to be one of the richest players in NI at this point, I'm not incredibly motivated to get super rich. This would change if all players were put on an equal footing because of a reset or something (don't worry, I'm not trying to say there should be one, I'm just explaining myself). I'm very competitive and if I felt I had a chance at being at the top, I would try much harder to get there.

I guess the best way to explain it though, is that I just enjoy the game. I enjoy shielding for 2 hours for the 10 minutes of chaos running up and down the hill to kill thor. I enjoy dicking around with people on ts and building sarissa forts.

I've kind of got to rambling but I'm incredibly sleep deprived so maybe I'll try to express myself again once I've made up my sleep.

[Slayer]

I personally do not like spending hours on hours reaching final waves for nothing.

If you beat wave 20 and kill the boss, there should be a guaranteed drop of a green material, not to you specifically, but at least we know someone is going to actually get something.

[Tee]

I personally do not like spending hours on hours reaching final waves for nothing.

If you beat wave 20 and kill the boss, there should be a guaranteed drop of a green material, not to you specifically, but at least we know someone is going to actually get something.

Have to agree with this

After 1200-1500hrs of Nordinvasion (including tons and tons of soloing/kiting to Odin/Prince) I never even saw a single legendary drop for anyone, and the total quantity of materials I found was worth approximately the same as ~2.5 transitional armours
Seeing as I have 4 max level characters that meant I could only JUST afford to equip them all with moderate gear
High level items (particularly house craftables) were generally worth more than everything I own combined

I certainly feel as though the drop rates need to be higher to provide some proper progression to those who don't luck out and find a legendary

And at the end of the day it is luck with legendaries (I know Winter made a point about being alive for the bosses, but that hasn't been enough for me)
After being alive for: 300+ prince kills, 30+ Odin kills, 100+ Thor kills, not only had I not found a legendary, but no one else had in any of my games
Seeing as there are generally 16 players in the server you could say that in my experience, I have witnessed well over 16,000hrs of gameplay without any legendaries to be seen

Moar green drops!  ;D

[Jarold]

I'm a firm believer in drop chance being set on your character when you create him. Like I have 0% to get a legendary, it's just how the cookie crumbles.

:'(

[Pikeman]

Odin should have a 100 % drop chance as others stated before me, and the same small chance to drop an old boot and a legendary, it would be fun to see frustrated players loot an old boot from odin when they had the same chance to get an awesome legendary. and we totally need a slot machine on the site as madjosh said, yay for gambling !

[NickyJ]

Odin should have a 100 % drop chance as others stated before me, and the same small chance to drop an old boot and a legendary, it would be fun to see frustrated players loot an old boot from odin when they had the same chance to get an awesome legendary. and we totally need a slot machine on the site as madjosh said, yay for gambling !

Actually, we're already gambling. We're just inserting time instead of cash.