Infantry Guide [Updated January 30, 2012]

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FOREWORD
Please refer to Marcoux's guide for information regarding class progression: http://forum.nordinvasion.com/index.php?...469.0.html

TACTICS
The most important thing for full infantry players to do is to learn how to form a shield line. You can be horrible at Mount and Blade, have no skills at blocking or attacking, and still be a benefit to your team! Shield lines are effective because having shields on both sides of you makes it so that enemies can only effectively hit you with overheads or thrusts. Since you know this, but bot's don't, you can abuse it by spamming overheads. Here are the rules to making an effective shield line.
1. Don't be an idiot -- keep your shield up if all the bots seem to have decided they want you dead. Allow your allies to take the heat off you by killing the enemies. You won't get many kills, but at least you'll be alive (and will probably earn a load of assist XP).
2. Do not run out of position. Don't go left. Don't go right. Moving in a direction other than forwards or backwards will only serve to make your allies friendly fire themselves, which means fewer kills per second, which in turn means you accrue more damage on your shield.
3. Pick up dropped shields if yours is losing its quality. You'll find plenty of huscarls shields later on anyway.
4. Medics are also very good at maintaining shield lines with heals so help some friends (perhaps archers) get their medic boxes, or become a medic yourself (though you currently cannot heal yourself).
5. If you notice all the bots converging on one side of the shield line, move in a way that angles you to be closer to the enemy, but still capable of preventing leaks. If you move together with the shield line, it will become a curve.
6. Sometimes, it's a better idea to advance, especially against enemies with long two-handed weapons (e.g. berserkers, zweihanders). The reason for this is that their attacks do little or no damage if they are unable to execute a full swing, thus saving both shield health and possibly your life. It isn't guaranteed that you will live, but you may decrease casualties. Block swings for allies so that they may kill the enemy. Walls also block swings.
7. You can have dedicated attackers standing between and slightly behind two people who are forming the shield line. Shielders just need to hold their shields up while that person spams overheads with a weapon that has crushthrough or long reach. This is the best way to utilize a shield line.

Feinting
Feinting is a very important skill to have as infantry. Feinting involves a fake attack followed by a real attack. Since we're facing bots you don't even have to feint in one direction and then attack in an opposite direction. 60% of the time, it works every time.
3 Step Guide to feinting:
1. Swing.
2. Before your swing hits anything, block.
3. Swing again.
Why this works: Bots will drop their guard and try to attack you because they attack after they block, but their attack will not come as fast as yours (generally).


GENERAL TIPS

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Some of these tips I read from a beginners guide some time ago.
1. If you ever have to run toward an archer without a shield, you can accomplish this without dying by dodging the arrows. Run straight at the archer and when you hear that the archer is about to release his arrow, turn and run at an angle until the danger passes, then resume your course.

2. When fighting cavalry, try to position yourself with your back against a wall.

3. If you are facing a combination of archers and infantry, hide behind a house or something so that archers won't be able to fire at you while you deal with the infantry.

4. This cannot be stressed enough: do not fight in wide open spaces. Don't get surrounded.

5. Don't chase enemies if they retreat into their allies. One extra kill isn't worth waiting 5 minutes for respawn. Don't get surrounded.

6. Be aware of your surroundings. Glance occasionally at your flanks so that you... don't get surrounded. Player IndiaQuinn suggests that you keep an eye out for allies who are under attack.

If your friend decided to leave the line and charge the enemy pack alone  there is not much you can do or should do. Trying to save the fool will likely lead to getting killed yourself. But always keep an eye open where there  the pressure is. If a friend is about to go down or a part of the line is wavering. Or as Blondin said, if you keep an overview you easily see when archers are in the danger zone. Help out.  When close to your archer friends, avoid sudden crossings of his/their line of fire.

If enemies are busy killing your friend, they leave a lot of opportunities on their flanks. Fast swings can easily decimate the attackers. Stay close to your ally if you do this, or the enemy group will split and overwhelm you all. [Editors Note: It is a good idea to have a long weapon so that you can attack from the flank with less of a risk of attracting enemy aggro]

When fighting the enemy in pairs, try not to swing your weapon at the same time. Two successive swings will like give a great hit chance on the enemy. This works very well against Huscarls and Zweihanders.

7. Roran's Target Priority Hierarchy:
Cavalry:
cavalry-archers-infantry-pikemen
Infantry:
Pikemen-infantry-archers-cavalry( or cavalry first if there is too much cav for the cav to handle)
Archers:
cavalry-archers-pikemen-infantry (since those carry shields)

8.If you manage to kill a mounted soldiers horse, attempt to immediately kill the rider. Do not go dismounting more soldiers. This is so that you can face the dismounted troop with less distraction while the other riders are attempting to turn around and hit you again. Always finish the rider off when you kill off his horse (unless it's too dangerous, in which case, get to better ground).

9. Try to avoid crossing an archer's line of fire as it will cause them to damage themselves. It also means one more enemy isn't dead/weakened.

CLASS PROGRESSION

Refer to the infantry class progression chart created by Marcoux.
http://forum.nordinvasion.com/index.php?...469.0.html

Also, I would like to ask our fellow infantry players to help fill out Helvictus' weapon and armor progression. http://forum.nordinvasion.com/index.php?...502.0.html


EQUIPMENT

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Much of this set-up is informed by observations of other effective players. The topic of equipment is always up to debate, but my preferred set-up involves:
1. a long range weapon (e.g. glaive, hafted blade) - primary tool of murder; slaughter them before they get close. Also, swinging side to side is generally more effective, as you have a greater chance of hitting the enemy. I also suggest using the autoblock that god has so graciously granted us, even if it goes against your principles.

2. a quick weapon that can be used with a shield (e.g. elite scimitar) - good for retreating while fighting shield infantry, or, if ever needed, charging archers). If you find yourself alone and are forced to retreat from a horde of enemies, I consider it a good time to whip out your shield and scimitar. If you can back away and get the enemies in a line, you have a higher chance of killing at least a few of them.

3. Deployable shields - most definitely a good idea. These require quite a bit of teamwork to properly employ though, so you need to have people who will agree to equip them and use them with you. These shields stop cavalry in their tracks, allowing you to slaughter them where they sit. Not only is it useful against cavalry, infantry also succumb to the power of deployable shield walls. No longer will you have to fear attacks from the flank! Well... kind of... maintain some of that fear and keep an eye out for those strange ones who are smart enough to run around the shield wall. Shield walls should be deployed with enough space between them to execute a downward slash, but little room to go between. Intentionally leaving a hole in the wall large enough for one enemy to go through is a good idea as well. This will funnel the enemies, giving you the same kind of advantage attacking in a concave will (the ability to attack one man from multiple angles). When using this item, I switch out the pike, as you no longer will have trouble with charging horses.

4. When you reach Sergeant class, you unlock an extremely powerful weapon: the morning star. The Morningstar has 38 pierce damage, overhead crushthrough, 95 speed, and 85 reach. You may use it with one or two hands. This weapons is very good against skirmishers and other shielded or armored foes and I highly recommend using it when you reach sergeant.

5. According to Simpli, the Pike is a versatile weapon for lower level players. It allows one to safely attack enemies while your allies act as a buffer between you and the enemy. It is a good choice for those who cannot yet afford expensive armor.

SUMMARY

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Be a team player. I realize it is difficult being part of a minority of players who try to play cooperatively, but persist, and others will eventually become willing to try to play in this way. Communicate with your allies and you can win a hundred battles without jeopardy! (DISCLAIMER: This statement is purely hyperbolic) But seriously, if you were in a situation where you were liable to get killed at any moment, would you be rushing in to find 1 gold from a fallen enemy? Would you be withholding the means to purchase godly armor in the face of a Nord invasion? Think about it, guys... Think about it... (This statement ended up being less serious than intended). Don't get surrounded!

I hope this guide has been informative and I hope that more players in the community become more willing to play as a team, and not for gold.

[Logics]

A very well made guide to aid the Infantry players, although it could use some touching up around the edges, apart from that I have nothing more to say. Great job and keep up the good work.  8)

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Thanks Logics  If there are any important pieces of advice you guys feel I have missed, please comment! I'd like to improve this guide as much as possible and help the NordInvasion community. I myself am quite new to Warband and I'm sure there are those who are more experienced than I am. There is definitely room for improvement. So far, I have only been using long range cutting weapons so if anybody has any information regarding other play styles, feel free to contribute.

Also, I'd like to request some info from other players about the WPF and skill levels for recruit, infantry, and heavy infantry, so I can put those down as well (though if there is a wiki for that, it'd probably be better suited for the purpose).

[King of Scotland]

It is a good guide, but it's basically still the same that has been stickied in Warband section in Taleworlds for ages. Just logical thinking and you don't need any guides whatsoever.

[Johao]

What I would do, is to list out the specifics of weapon and armour usage and how each of them help against the Full Invasion bots.

Give each details using which recommended weapons and how to defeat them.

Hope this helps you in expending your guide.

THen again, I could be encouraging competition for writing nerd guides*wrangles fists like a dork*. 

[Polobow]

I think the stats are incorrect? The stats you see on your page are your total skills, the sergeant only adds it up. I don't know the exact stats so i might be wrong.

[jaaash]

Good guide! Keep up the good work. If I ever gain a ton of levels I'll tell you the next melee stats.

[Roran]

Nicely done, espiecially mentioning cavalry's task on the battleifed: aggro'ing the mob, so infantry and archers can pick off stragglers and take strong defensive positions and then herd the mob into your allies trap.

Then go rampage on everything dead or alive with the name "bot".

Cavalry should always target enemies in this order:
Cavalry-archers-infantry-pikemen
Infantry like this:
Pikemen-infantry-archers-cavalry( or cavalry first if there is too much cav for the cav to handle)
And archers as following:
cavalry-archers-pikemen-infantry (since those carry shields)

[Golradir]

Idd, I usually go for cav since they attack me, and then I go for the archers, because I really despise 'm 

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Thanks for the responses, guys. A lot of this information was gleaned from instructional posts on the taleworlds forums and a lot of it is common sense, once you play the game a bit more. This is to help supplement the learning process and hopefully people will improve more quickly.

Polobow, I'll add the actual increases you get from upgrading if someone can post information on pure heavy infantry and pure infantry stats. Unfortunately, we don't seem to have many forum users.

Roran, thanks for the targeting order, I've added the infantry part to the guide (though maybe I should just put the whole thing there, as it's pretty useful to know).

Golradir, you make a good point -- kill the guys who are attacking you I think Roran's point was more for assessing the battlefield and knowing who to kill to better benefit the team if there is nobody chasing you. Of course,  it remains important to not get too far out of position chasing baddies.