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I generally dislike posting a conflicting point, but you say 'kiting is a big part of the mod' and while that is true, here's the point; it was never meant to be a part of it.
All maroon's point are valid, as they always are, I also don't understand why we have 'yet another' topic on kiting, hasn't everything been addressed in assassine's topic?
However if you do want a kiting only server (Or small slot server) here's what needs to happen;
-Severely reduced loot chances
-A lot more bots need to be given higher shield skill along the lines of veteran soldiers
Kiting shouldn't be the strongest money making aspect of this mod, I enjoy occasionally doing a bit of kiting myself, mainly because it's nice only having yourself to rely on for a change, however, if you want these servers, they should be largely for entertainment/ a challenge only, then I don't see a problem with it.
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It seems that you guys think, we would kite because it´s fun or that it is easy. But it isn´t! Also some melee waves aren´t! You need so many materials for housecraftables that it´s not possible to get them, even if you count to the richest persons in NI. What about the new players? They will need several years as well until they are as good as I e.g. am now. And, I had 3 legendary loots until this day, so, if you really want to enjoy this mod, you need a good team which brings in some weapons it´s fun to play with or just a kiting server Imo without decreased drop chances.
About the point that this is a teamwork based mod: I think, kiting alone has become rare (at least I am not doing this), usually it´s 2 or 3 guys playing together. So this IS teamwork and nothing else. And with the current maps it´s hard enough to kite.
an official rule for killing outside exp range? why not just tie our shoelaces together...i can see a number of stupid reports inc
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(04-04-2014, 03:00 PM)madjosh link Wrote: an official rule for killing outside exp range? why not just tie our shoelaces together...i can see a number of stupid reports inc
It's not that every kill outside of range is a reportable offense, only when someone or some people think it's a good idea to run away from everyone else, and kill a whole bunch of Nords out of range to get the exp and possible loot for themselves. This has happened in the past and logically is something the devs don't want to see again.
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(04-04-2014, 12:06 PM)Maroon link Wrote: [quote author=Alphaa link=topic=24912.msg172857#msg172857 date=1396612949]
In my opinion it´s the best idea ever. There are by far not enough materials to be sold. (in my case, Lumps of Lead) Every1 needs them, I´m having a trade with some1, offline for the night, next day it´s sold to any1 else. So I can´t do anything else than looting it right? -> Kiting the best way -> Kiting Servers^^
Which leads to only people who like kiting looting stuff, or people will have to force themselves to kite in order to loot. No, not a good idea, in my opinion, because of the current way looting works.
When kiting alone, the chance of getting a loot from a bot is 16x higher than on a full server (provided everyone is in assist range), but the amount of bots is not 16x as high. Therefore, chances of getting stuff when playing alone is higher, so people kiting will by definition get more loot than others. While this might seem nice for people who actually kite, it is not for those who prefer not to kite.
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Ye but if you had kiting servers, all would have the chance to kite and get same drop rates?
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(04-04-2014, 03:24 PM)The Cid link Wrote: Ye but if you had kiting servers, all would have the chance to kite and get same drop rates?
Which is why I said "or people will have to force themselves to kite in order to loot.". Not everyone likes to kite, and if kiting gives you more stuff, people will either have to live with less drops than people who do like kiting, or have to force themselves to kite even if they suck at it, or just don't like it.
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Only because their is the chance of getting loots, it doesn´t mean you do so. When I am kiting I´m not getting much. Maybe 1 Water or Lump. It´s way easier just to do nothing but boring stuff on events.
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(04-04-2014, 04:12 PM)Alphaa link Wrote: Only because their is the chance of getting loots, it doesn´t mean you do so. When I am kiting I´m not getting much. Maybe 1 Water or Lump. It´s way easier just to do nothing but boring stuff on events.
Alphaa if you don't stop spreading the rumor that kiting is forbidden in general I will make you stop !
I am sick of people bitching around because of our decisions....
I even explained you my thoughts and only thing you have to say is:
"I don't get much out of it", "It's not that easy", "It's boring without kiting" and as you had no more "arguments" you go on servers and tell players to stop kiting.
What do you expect getting for it ? Our attention ? Well, you got it but not in a good way I can tell you.
If you can't deal with our decisions go build you own map and play singleplayer....
So again that even you can understand that:
Kiting is not forbidden in general, only if it's disruptive for other players !!!
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