The Item and Class Stat Balance Thread

[Sargent Q]

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[quote author=Adam242411 link=topic=47440.msg243966#msg243966 date=1443374449]
I have a suggestion about my new armour Plate over leather, why this is not usable by Royal Guard?

well, what is it usable by currently and what are its stats, none have dropped before yours.
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Legionnaire and Zweihander
16 weight, 78 body, 36 leg

I am sure the reason it is not for Royal Guards is apparent.
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I want.  So much.

[Adam242411]

Yeah I hope that be usable on Royal Guard too

[CaptOle]

About the Zweihander...

I feel like compared to the legionnaire, the Zwei is inferior and here is my reasoning:

The Zwei has the same 2h as the legionnaire 1h. This is a good amount of 2h and should stay the same. However the thing that bugs me is that the Legio has the throwing of a tier 3/4 pikeman.  That means in addition to the crazy 1h that the legio has, the standard increases in power strike, and 2 more shielding, it has the throwing skill of nearly a t4 pikeman. In conclusion, the legionnaire is Superior in nearly every way.

I think a good way to make Zwei on par with Legio would be to give Zwei a modest increase of either 1 power strike and/or athletics or 20 2h WP.

I want to hear what everyone else thinks about the Zwei and Legio comparison and whether or not it is an equal playing field between the two.

[DeadOtter]

The Zwie is made for pure attack damage via 2h, its the best class you use for shield wall slashing, apart from some marauders with superior weaponry.


the legio is better 1h and a better back up shielder but i would take a slasher set of zwies anyday, there job is to hit hard at the shield wall and they do it very very well

legios are a fun class and you can do multiple of things it doesn't make it a superior class

[DR.]

Zwei op all i need to say

[DeadOtter]

Zwei op all i need to say

im with woody on this

[DR.]

The only class i can think of that needs a boost is Aventurier it should get Power strike of 8 as Pavise Champion has the same atm

[Soviet]

did someone say aventurier?

[DR.]

Just want to bring up some items me and others think need changing
Short Heavy Cade
Apprentice not Siege Engineer

Eastern Katana
40p vs ab 44p and Elegant Greatsword,Bidenhander,Forlorn Hope... with 45-46p
Think it should be same as vgs at 48p or 47p

Dreaded War Pick
People have made the point that this should do more damage than Halogi's Torch

Ullrs Bane
Missile Speed 68 vs Stag at 70

Swadian Gauntlets/Steel Gauntlets/Studded Gauntlets/Noble Steel Gauntlets
Usable by Ranger as Halberdier can use it (add Steel Gauntlets) to Halberdier

Dragon Halberd/Dwarf Axe/Justice
Some one had the idea to make it like the Legacy that winter made with the (69c and 93 speed ?) just make it slow with more cut

[Winter]

Just want to bring up some items me and others think need changing
Short Heavy Cade
Apprentice not Siege Engineer

Not a new idea.  As much as I support it being T3 instead of T4, I don't see it happening any time soon.

Eastern Katana
40p vs ab 44p and Elegant Greatsword,Bidenhander,Forlorn Hope... with 45-46p
Think it should be same as vgs at 48p or 47p

Katanas aren't for stabbing.

Dreaded War Pick
People have made the point that this should do more damage than Halogi's Torch

Although I don't like the idea of simply slapping more damage onto the DWP, an already very powerful and fast weapon, some brainstorming on this would be nice.  Let's get some ideas on how these two weapons should be compared to each other and what stats they should have.

Ullrs Bane
Missile Speed 68 vs Stag at 70

Nah, the Stag is meant to be slower, but more powerful.  It makes sense that a more powerful bow shoots faster.

Swadian Gauntlets/Steel Gauntlets/Studded Gauntlets/Noble Steel Gauntlets
Usable by Ranger as Halberdier can use it (add Steel Gauntlets) to Halberdier

But Ranger=/=Halberdier.  Just as Defender Gauntlets aren't for Halberdier, neither shall Steel Gauntlets be.

Dragon Halberd/Dwarf Axe/Justice
Some one had the idea to make it like the Legacy that winter made with the (69c and 93 speed ?) just make it slow with more cut

There are 3 weapons listed there.  I hope you don't mean all 3 should have those stats.  I am totally in favor of the Dragon Halberd getting some work done on it, though.  Ideas and thoughts, please.