Buff Malice

[DR.]

should the item stats be based on its colour, or is the colour just a general indicator of its tier?

both ish

so eg

AGS/Dwraf Axe/VGS (tr1) - Locked to "tr4"
Dur (tr2) - Locked to "all heroes" 
Legacy (tr3) - Locked to 1-3 heroes

Should be expected each "tr" to get better in stats



A better example would have been the bows going from tr4 to Warden.



Getting back on topic whats the stats of Heavy Pilum(tr3) vs Pilum(tr2)?

Heavy Pilum - Locked to Leg
Thrust Damage 58p
Accuracy 126
Speed 85
Missile Speed 26
Ammo 15
Weight 4
-Bonus Shields

Second mode
Swing Damage 30b
Thrust Damage 38p
Length 120
Speed 92

Pilum - Locked to all hero's pikeman
Thrust Damage 56p
Accuracy 120
Speed 85
Missile Speed 25
Ammo 14
Weight 3
-Bonus Shields

Second mode
Swing Damage 28b
Thrust Damage 34p
Length 102
Speed 91

[TerrorBite]

Have you or anyone else properly tested if they are better than DB anyway? This assumes it matters, given is quite arbitrary to base new leg stats on.
Also DB are quite expensive for the cheapest leg projectile? Maybe more intermediate projectiles wouldn't be a bad thing.

[Sargent Q]

Could you please read my post? Malice have the same accuracy stat as VHTA, but due to how throwing works, It has a lower usability stat in game. Its how Throwing works in Warband.

[DR.]

Have you or anyone else properly tested if they are better than DB anyway? This assumes it matters, given is quite arbitrary to base new leg stats on.
Also DB are quite expensive for the cheapest leg projectile? Maybe more intermediate projectiles wouldn't be a bad thing.

Just because DB is a lot does not mean this should be cheaper by having not as good stats. What type of logic is that? 

Vgs is on the same line as Dwarf axe

H-bow with F-bow

Pen with Bolt tosser

etc

[TerrorBite]

eh your bases are 'because they do it with other items'. It might be nice to have a new top legendary but it might be nice to also have a cheaper one. It's easier to create lower priced items by adding weaker items, opposed to adding more DB, causing the price to drop.

I've often come across 'next tier' items which are inferior to their predecessors under frequent circumstances, and the devs don't seem interested in adjusting these. If they don't care so much about a clean tier system for current items, there is little reason for new ones to be any different. Maybe the VHTA will be better at long distance throwing but worse overall.

[PioPio]

Would be nice if they were more accurate.

[Bobo]

A bit off topic but connected: I'd be so happy to see the legendary items list updated, I must admit I'm getting lost with all the novelties...

[Coconut]

Buff Mangler, buff blessed pene, buff malace... Should I just make a buff [insert my item] thread... lol

[DR.]

Buff Mangler, buff blessed pene, buff malace... Should I just make a buff [insert my item] thread... lol

This guy is on to something 

Coco for dev

This was a free shit post plz

[Bobo]

I believe this thread is down to the core about the weap aims badly. Surely, the owner wishes it to be damn good but still - if it truly aims badly maybe it makes some sense to look into it. The item is new, some testing might bring devs to conclusion it does need some changes...