Mangler

[Winter]

In order to further separate the Mangler from other slashing polearms, one possibility is to lower its base stats and give it crushthrough.

Current: spd_rtng(97) | weapon_length(200) | swing_damage(52, pierce) | thrust_damage(52, pierce)

With Crushthrough: spd_rtng(93) | weapon_length(200) | swing_damage(53, pierce) | thrust_damage(53, pierce)

Please vote or give your own suggestion below.  The Mangler will not be receiving an outright buff, but we are still open for other suggestions.

[Lone_Wolf_PL]

In order to further separate the Mangler from other slashing polearms, one possibility is to lower its base stats and give it crushthrough.

Current: spd_rtng(97) | weapon_length(200) | swing_damage(52, pierce) | thrust_damage(52, pierce)

With Crushthrough: spd_rtng(93) | weapon_length(200) | swing_damage(53, pierce) | thrust_damage(53, pierce)

Please vote or give your own suggestion below.  The Mangler will not be receiving an outright buff, but we are still open for other suggestions.

Was it intended that Mangler with Crushthrough has more damage than the normal one?

[Winter]

Yes.

[PioPio]

It's slower though.

[Akcyn]

Mangler with crush? Poor nords

[DR.]

Yes plz make it different

Can I guess myn would be 95 speed 56p?

[Who-]

yikes

[DR.]

If this does not end up happing I would also be happy with lower speed and more p

[Akanamah]

Stop nerf stats Mangler. Keep as it is or add Crushthrough, but dont change stats. - 4 spd + 1p is bullshit.
-2 spd + 1p or -4 spd + 2p alright.
Crushthrough is not so necessary, it's not worth it to nerf stats again.

[DR.]

think about how much crush through helps with hammers its worth a lot more than 1p

Adding the speed (93) would maybe able to stun lock some bots that you could not do otherwise but you lose the dps on bots were you don't need it which would be what maybe less than 25% of the time?

Btw it would not be the 1st polearm to to have crush though 

Same crafting