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[Feature Request] Weapon Evolution
#21
(09-03-2025, 04:29 AM)Malong Wrote:
(09-03-2025, 04:26 AM)DR. Wrote:
(09-03-2025, 04:13 AM)Malong Wrote:
(08-03-2025, 04:20 AM)DR. Wrote: I do still believe a mini rise of the ashes should be a thing for the people like myself that have a lot of IDs close to 50%

I will clarify I think it should be an exponential reward. If it's 250 bots I need to kill I don't think 2.5m gold is good but 2mill or less is fine

No. Also you mean logarithmic.

Kind of a nitpick when you clearly understood what I meant to be able to correct it

Most people understand the word exponential no need to overcomplicate language we are on a game forum

That's a reflection on me and my aptitude, not on you and your ability to communicate. You essentially typed "Greetings gangster, I typed the opposite of what I really meant, but I'm still correct."

I did not say im correct I'm simply saying you're over correct and that doesn't matter here. If you want to argue over nothing be my guest but I would rather talk about the topic on hand and not waste my time
#22
(09-03-2025, 04:34 AM)DR. Wrote:
(09-03-2025, 04:29 AM)Malong Wrote:
(09-03-2025, 04:26 AM)DR. Wrote:
(09-03-2025, 04:13 AM)Malong Wrote:
(08-03-2025, 04:20 AM)DR. Wrote: I do still believe a mini rise of the ashes should be a thing for the people like myself that have a lot of IDs close to 50%

I will clarify I think it should be an exponential reward. If it's 250 bots I need to kill I don't think 2.5m gold is good but 2mill or less is fine

No. Also you mean logarithmic.

Kind of a nitpick when you clearly understood what I meant to be able to correct it

Most people understand the word exponential no need to overcomplicate language we are on a game forum

That's a reflection on me and my aptitude, not on you and your ability to communicate. You essentially typed "Greetings gangster, I typed the opposite of what I really meant, but I'm still correct."

I did not say im correct I'm simply saying you're over correct and that doesn't matter here. If you want to argue over nothing be my guest but I would rather talk about the topic on hand and not waste my time

No, I'm just correct, and you're incorrect. And now you're changing the topic and using a whataboutism. This is "15 days is 4 weeks" again.

And that previous post made no sense, it's not "overcomplicat[ing] language," you literally meant the inverse of what you typed. Imagine I typed "2 is a negative number" and you replied that it's positive, and I replied "Most people understand the word negative no need to overcomplicate language we are on a game forum [sic]."

Anyway for the "topic on hand [sic]" (this isn't the correct phrase, by the way), we get it: you have all the heroes and you want to be rewarded, but you always conveniently gloss over the fact that your reward is getting to play all the heroes. And your claim of being "close to 50%" on Rise from the Ashes isn't equivalent to having 250 of each bot, as there are bottlenecks in the quest. So your premise is disingenuous.
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#23
(09-03-2025, 04:43 AM)Malong Wrote: you have all the heroes and you want to be rewarded, but you always conveniently gloss over the fact that your reward is getting to play all the heroes. And your claim of being

I don't know why this is a debate Terath was the one that agreed with me all those years ago that it would be nice if that unofficial achievement was actually recognised. It's like your argument makes no logical sense man.. all quests involve killing bots and those bots by themselves individually drop gold and mats and possibly loot. We get rewarded already for killing so why do we have quests to begin with?

Things can rewarding on multiple factors for doing the same task

(09-03-2025, 04:43 AM)Malong Wrote: And your claim of being "close to 50%" on Rise from the Ashes isn't equivalent to having 250 of each bot, as there are bottlenecks in the quest. So your premise is disingenuous.

I shot out 2mill as an example, and then edited it and added less as yes It becomes [exponentially] harder

(08-03-2025, 04:20 AM)DR. Wrote: 2mill or less is fine


The reward factor is not up to my decision It's not up to yours either I'm simply suggesting the idea and use the number as an example. The quest should exist. The gap in between all of the quests and rise of the ashes is massive It'd be nice if there was something actually in between it or multiple quests even

The community is probably hoping it would award Orichalcum and Relic Fragment. That has a nice rhyme to it given they are worth less then Phoenix Feather as well

It's like I fully don't understand why you're complaining, because while we add the smaller quests, you can very much argue, why don't we just get a bigger one as well? For the try hards that only play 1 id.

Make a quest thats 1000 kills of each and it gives 20m i do not care.. Hmm 9x Legendary Essence so they can upgrade one of the best things is something actually sounds fine to me
#24
(09-03-2025, 05:02 AM)DR. Wrote:
(09-03-2025, 04:43 AM)Malong Wrote: you have all the heroes and you want to be rewarded, but you always conveniently gloss over the fact that your reward is getting to play all the heroes. And your claim of being

I don't know why this is a debate Terath was the one that agreed with me all those years ago that it would be nice if that unofficial achievement was actually recognised.

They can literally add items to your account if they wanted to. Face it: your conversation got discarded.

(09-03-2025, 05:02 AM)DR. Wrote: It's like your argument makes no logical sense man.. all quests involve killing bots and those bots by themselves individually drop gold and mats and possibly loot. We get rewarded already for killing so why do we have quests to begin with?

How is this even equivalent? Not every game gives you something for getting all the classes.

(09-03-2025, 05:02 AM)DR. Wrote:
(08-03-2025, 04:20 AM)DR. Wrote: 2mill or less is fine

The reward factor is not up to my decision It's not up to yours either I'm simply suggesting the idea and use the number as an example. The quest should exist. The gap in between all of the quests and rise of the ashes is massive It'd be nice if there was something actually in between it or multiple quests even

The amount is not the point.

"The existence of a quest is not up to your decision [sic]"

(09-03-2025, 05:02 AM)DR. Wrote: It'd be nice if there was something actually in between it or multiple quests even

"Greetings gangster, I do not have the attention span to complete this, so I would like intermediate rewards." Also this.

(09-03-2025, 05:02 AM)DR. Wrote: It's like I fully don't understand why you're complaining, because while we add the smaller quests, you can very much argue, why don't we just get a bigger one as well? For the try hards that only play 1 id.

Point out where I'm complaining.
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#25
(09-03-2025, 05:26 AM)Malong Wrote: They can literally add items to your account if they wanted to. Face it: your conversation got discarded.
You and I both know that is not a good long-term solution and that's why it hasn't happened. I fully admit it is not a priority in the mod giving more reason for why it hasn't happened.

The game in general hasn't had an official update in a half a decade It's not that my idea got disguarded this whole mod did.

This mod been on life support for so long and with the recent updates It has gained so many players interest again. That's how it works if you want to actually keep a community going you need to pump out content eventually otherwise you will die and be forgotten
#26
(09-03-2025, 05:38 AM)DR. Wrote:
(09-03-2025, 05:26 AM)Malong Wrote: They can literally add items to your account if they wanted to. Face it: your conversation got discarded.
You and I both know that is not a good long-term solution and that's why it hasn't happened. I fully admit it is not a priority in the mod giving more reason for why it hasn't happened.

Yeah, you're right: they need a scalable solution for all several of you players that made the 12 heroes. /s

Seriously, how many of you do you think exist? And how many have that goal to even make them?

(09-03-2025, 05:38 AM)DR. Wrote: The game in general hasn't had an official update in a half a decade It's not that my idea got disguarded this whole mod did.

This mod been on life support for so long and with the recent updates It has gained so many players interest again. That's how it works if you want to actually keep a community going you need to pump out content eventually otherwise you will die and be forgotten

"disguarded [sic]" lol. Anyway, the spike in player activity happened last summer. The updates happened January this year. Last summer is before January (obligatory: 3 seasons isn't 2 months). Your premise is wrong.
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#27
(09-03-2025, 05:50 AM)Malong Wrote:
(09-03-2025, 05:38 AM)DR. Wrote:
(09-03-2025, 05:26 AM)Malong Wrote: They can literally add items to your account if they wanted to. Face it: your conversation got discarded.
You and I both know that is not a good long-term solution and that's why it hasn't happened. I fully admit it is not a priority in the mod giving more reason for why it hasn't happened.

Yeah, you're right: they need a scalable solution for all several of you players that made the 12 heroes. /s

Seriously, how many of you do you think exist? And how many have that goal to even make them?

The original premise was giving something to someone that made all the sniper heroes or all inf heroes etc. That was agreed upon. There are plenty of people at this point that have all 3 heroes on a certain line.

That's not something you realistically want to do manually for the rest of your life. Even more so if you do reward it, more people would be possibly willing to go down that track ending in more work

Models would need to be found/made as it sounded like at the time of talking they didn't want to use anything currently available in game. That takes work that also involves an update.

It's a lot of work for practically yes, a cosmetic and that is why it's been on the back burner because it is not a priority
#28
(09-03-2025, 06:05 AM)DR. Wrote:
(09-03-2025, 05:50 AM)Malong Wrote:
(09-03-2025, 05:38 AM)DR. Wrote:
(09-03-2025, 05:26 AM)Malong Wrote: They can literally add items to your account if they wanted to. Face it: your conversation got discarded.
You and I both know that is not a good long-term solution and that's why it hasn't happened. I fully admit it is not a priority in the mod giving more reason for why it hasn't happened.

Yeah, you're right: they need a scalable solution for all several of you players that made the 12 heroes. /s

Seriously, how many of you do you think exist? And how many have that goal to even make them?

The original premise was giving something to someone that made all the sniper heroes or all inf heroes etc. That was agreed upon. There are plenty of people at this point that have all 3 heroes on a certain line.

So you moved the goalposts. Nice.

(09-03-2025, 05:02 AM)DR. Wrote:
(09-03-2025, 04:43 AM)Malong Wrote: you have all the heroes and you want to be rewarded, but you always conveniently gloss over the fact that your reward is getting to play all the heroes. And your claim of being

I don't know why this is a debate Terath was the one that agreed with me all those years ago that it would be nice if that unofficial achievement was actually recognised
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#29
(09-03-2025, 06:14 AM)Malong Wrote: So you moved the goalposts. Nice.

The first time I referenced this idea in this thread.

(08-03-2025, 03:04 AM)DR. Wrote: I spoke to a Dev 5-10 years ago the idea of getting a unique collectible for getting all the sniper heroes for example. 

We never really talked about all heroes If we did I cant remember that part of the conversation. If you reward the smaller steps, which was agreed upon it makes sense that you reward the biggest one at the end with either something equivalent value or probably bigger than the smallest steps.

This idea in general is a lot of work for a bit of fun as it has no impact on meta as I said its not a priority. If it's still on the list of things to do I don't know, but at least it has been on the list on some form In terms of the verbal agreement. 

Ideas from the past that were agreed upon may be worth bringing up in current times where updates seem to be coming out at this point.
#30
(09-03-2025, 06:18 AM)DR. Wrote:
(09-03-2025, 06:14 AM)Malong Wrote: So you moved the goalposts. Nice.

The first time I referenced this idea in this thread.

(08-03-2025, 03:04 AM)DR. Wrote: I spoke to a Dev 5-10 years ago the idea of getting a unique collectible for getting all the sniper heroes for example. 

I meant the quoted reply thread about having all the heroes.

But let's say it was indeed promised 5-10 years ago (and I really doubt it was 10 years ago if you talked to Terath about it), unified inventory was promised nearly 8 years ago. If you still believe something is coming for training heroes based on hearsay, then you should also believe that unified inventory is coming based on a post by the "Head of Game Direction" (and it's obviously not).
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