Best weapon choices — Discussion and Questions.

[DearH]

I seek advice from all masters with my questions.   
What weapon would you equip for Halberdiers (formerly Marauders, now merged)?
1.Mangler
2.Pike of Kings

What weapon would you equip for RG and Legion?
1.Byrllysg
2.Dreaded War Pick

What weapon would you equip for CM or PC?
1.Dead Shot（only CM
2.Eagle Crossbow
3.Penetrator

What weapon would you equip for all the Archer?
Warden:
1.Typhoon
2.Tempest
Ranger and Sentry:
1.Stag Bow
2.Ullr's Bane
Take into account the upgraded versions of all the weapons mentioned above.

I'd like to know your choice and the reason behind it.

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About CM weapons. I think for any ranged weapon, the key is how many shots it takes to kill an enemy. That’s why I use the Blessed Penetrator with Cursed Onyx Bolts in CM. This combination can one-shot Siege Masters in 99% of situations.

As for why I don’t use Deadshot, . Not only does it have a slower firing speed, but whenever it hits a boss, the boss becomes completely immobilized and suffers no stagger effects at all. I’ve been defeated unfairly by this trick before, so I don't want to take advantage of others with this trick, nor do I want to just stand there and watch other players do all the damage.

The eagle crossbow is far better for hard modes and solo play; it's fast and accurate, ideal for skilled players.

I'm curious, are there any units that can only be one-shot by high-damage bows (Typhoon and Stag Bow) within the different damage thresholds of the two archer weapons? I also consider targets that can be defeated with multiple shots, provided that high-damage bows require less operation than rapid-fire bows(Tempest and Ullr's Bane) of the same class .

I have very little knowledge about melee weapons and their upgraded versions. I don't have enough resources to conduct detailed tests, so I hope someone can share their valuable experience.

[King Harlaus]

For Halberdier: Mangler

rg and legio Byllysg

cm: dead shot pc: eagle

warden: typhoon
ranger: stag

[BlackSniper]

For Halberdiers I would choose the Mangler, because I like the crushthrough it gives.

For both RG and Legion I would pick the Byrllysg, because it is a superior version of the DWP. I would only choose the DWP as 2nd when it is either too difficult to buy the Byrllysg (it is a rare legendary) or because I cannot afford it (huge price difference between the 2).

For CM or PC I would've usually gone for Eagle Crossbow, but I only recently used the Dead Shot and loved the insta kills I got when aiming for headshots in Ragnarok so I probably would go for Dead Shot now. Since it is slower, the enemy ranged doesn't keep locked on you so you're less likely to die. When on budget I would pick the Penetrator since it is also very good and cheap to upgrade.

For Warden I would choose the Typhoon, because I prefer the extra damage that can sometimes be the difference between a 2nd hit or insta kill on enemy ranged.

For Ranger and Sentry I would pick the Stag Bow for the same reasons as with the Warden.

[Barracuda]

For halberdir definitely jormungandr aswell. Blunt and piercing dmg is best for rag and hard. For normal mode cut dmg is best

[Eternal]

For Halberdier I find that a spear is a must have. Mangler is great but most of the time slashing positions will be taken by Zweis and you'll need to attack over the cades if you want to melee.

Mangler is pretty fun while spamming normals though.

I'd also prefer a Jorm over PoK, the 50% extra range is quite worth the 3p damage loss in most situations in my opinion.

[Hamsterino]

I highly recommend you don't ever use a dead shot, unless you absolutely hate everyone playing infantry. The knockdown effect will most likely have them killed sooner or later.

For the bows, I think it's completely up to whether you prefer speed or damage per hit. As someone who is usually kiting, I believe the faster bows are superior.

[Chaos Laicosin]

Ultimately it would depend on your play style (and ping) when playing any of the heros.

For marauder, I like the crush through of mangler but I'm also close to useless with a pike so I've barely used them and probably can't give a fair comparison. Though the base swing damage on PoK (50b) is barely different from the Lucerne hammer alt mode at 49b except the Lucerne hammer ha crush through.

Also like knockdown on brysslstick.

For PC, either of the xbows would be fine. Eagle would be better for kiting I guess but not by much.

For CM, I actually find the deadshot knockdown helps with kiting since the slowed enemy can block up the line of enemies following you giving extra time to make up ground. Plus, the guaranteed head shot on all hard enemies (except bosses) is nice.

For archers, with my usual ping I don't notice a huge difference in damage output between the different speeds of bow so I go for higher base damage.

[Antar]

Halb --> Mangler for crushthrough (but Jorm is way better)
Inf --> Byrllysg (cause blunt is better generally speaking)
CM --> Dead shot (to OS everyone)
PC -->Eagle (fast reload)
Warden --> Tempest (cause it shot fast)
Ranger/Sentry --> Stag (cause it looks cool)

[Mercy]

For RG: Mercy, because drip

[Jean Badou]

This is an interesting topic, as someone who played with a lot of those classes/weapons, I can let you know what I think is the best.

For a non Hoplite skirmisher, I'd say the best melee weapon is Cursed Jormungandr followed by Blessed PoK, Mangler is very situational and only performs better if you either have a lot of space or if nords keep blocking attacks (usually happens on runs with RGs when bots stand far away from barricades. A side note on the Mangler is the very low weight on that weapon making it quite hard to crushthrough some shields, Cursed Mangler gains a bit of weight, making this less of an issue.

For Infantry classes including zweihander, my preferred one handed weapon would be either CWP or a Mortifer, I find Byrllysg to be only good against bosses, while still not being much better than a DWP in that case. I also would rather use a two handed weapon to deal with bosses instead of a one handed weapon, so I'd pick either Blessed Ironsong or Cursed Mercy. I think Durendal and Legacy aren't that bad as long as you can get a decent speed bonus.

For CM and Pavise Champion, for ranged, I'd use a Blessed Eagle Crossbow rather than a Penetrator, as I like extra speed on crossbows more than the extra damage that doesn't allow killing more nords with fewer headshots. As Hamster said, using any CM locked crossbow is only suitable if you want to kill your infantry allies, due to how the knockdown animation doesn't properly stun nords.

For the archer classes, I'd say it's a choice you have to make between speed and damage. Raging Typhoon with Blessed Zephyr usually will one shot the Nord Champion Huscarls, on hard, and sometimes one shot Tricksters and other nords with similar HP such as normal wave 14 and probably some other nords. Higher damage bows such as Typhoon and Stag Bow also have higher missile speed than their faster counterparts, making it easier to shoot very far away nords.
I'd personally use the faster bows as the shooting animation takes less time, allowing a better kiting experience.
I also think the upgrade benefits Ullr's Bane and Tempest more, due to their base damage being lower.