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(23-01-2017, 02:21 AM)Looter Wrote: "None of that is applicable, and the buyer isn't receiving any part part of "the Program" or "the Software Product." If or when they do, they'd be breaking these agreements. There is a huge difference between distributing a piece of the game and distributing access to a part of the game. "

I do not see this as a great argument, as access to a part of the game, arguably it is equal to distributing access to the whole game itself which is done for example in the below,

" (ii) exploit the Program or any of its parts for any commercial purpose, including, but not limited to, use at a cyber café, computer gaming center or any other location-based site (Paradox Interactive AB may offer a separate Site License Agreement to permit you to make the Program available for commercial use; contact Paradox Interactive AB for details);"

The end purpose is still profiting commercially whether it be your access to the part as you say, or access to the whole.
The language differs likely as there is no universal currency for Warband to need to protect or watch over, as far as Taleworlds is concerned its only a way to buy items within the game in multiplayer. In the original Warband, gold was not transferable between players, with Nord invasion currency can be transferred however.

It's not a "great argument" because Taleworlds had an oversight? Regardless of intention, the language of the agreement only covers "the Program" or "the Software Product." And the language doesn't differ, for Taleworlds, it's simply not present whatsoever to cover any instances of items in the actual game. By the way, those EULAs I quoted to you are from games older than Warband, so the templates and precedent are there.

Quote:You are quoting specific information for a game other than Warband that is not related as each game's eula will cover things differently according to their needs. As said in my past post though, I concede that Taleworlds is unlikely to do anything about this unless its NI mod developers themselves who are selling the gold/items. Between players, they won't pursue it as the game Broadsword you quoted might, as they will be more interested in regulating the currency as it was made to be transferred between people unlike gold in Warband which was probably never conceived by Taleworlds to be transferrable.

Of course it's clauses from other games' EULAs. It's to show that Warband doesn't have the same clause that covers anything outside of the software, and shows that access to instances of items aren't covered. The omission of these clauses is what allows this to occur.

At the end of the day, they simply did not cover this case, so it's allowed.

(23-01-2017, 02:25 AM)LordChaos Wrote:
(23-01-2017, 02:21 AM)Looter Wrote: "None of that is applicable, and the buyer isn't receiving any part part of "the Program" or "the Software Product." If or when they do, they'd be breaking these agreements. There is a huge difference between distributing a piece of the game and distributing access to a part of the game. "

I do not see this as a great argument, as access to a part of the game, arguably it is equal to distributing access to the whole game itself which is done for example in the below,

" (ii) exploit the Program or any of its parts for any commercial purpose, including, but not limited to, use at a cyber café, computer gaming center or any other location-based site (Paradox Interactive AB may offer a separate Site License Agreement to permit you to make the Program available for commercial use; contact Paradox Interactive AB for details);"

The end purpose is still profiting commercially whether it be your access to the part as you say, or access to the whole.
The language differs likely as there is no universal currency for Warband to need to protect or watch over, as far as Taleworlds is concerned its only a way to buy items within the game in multiplayer. In the original Warband, gold was not transferable between players, with Nord invasion currency can be transferred however.

You are quoting specific information for a game other than Warband that is not related as each game's eula will cover things differently according to their needs. As said in my past post though, I concede that Taleworlds is unlikely to do anything about this unless its NI mod developers themselves who are selling the gold/items. Between players, they won't pursue it as the game Broadsword you quoted might, as they will be more interested in regulating the currency as it was made to be transferred between people unlike gold in Warband which was probably never conceived by Taleworlds to be transferrable.

Which I guess is the reason why it is even pointless to ask for their authorization or anything. Even if they would forbid it, they would have to access so much private data they can't have access to. Worst case scenario would be getting your License revoked. Just buy another one if you can eventually get caught, then rinse & repeat. 

They can't enforce NI staff to watch over it & they most likely have no authority over it as it is not them selling it. 

So yeah.. pretty much useless.

Most importantly, it's just not part of the agreement they hold users to.
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selling ni stuff for real money - by [ASSASSINE] - 19-01-2017, 05:01 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Malong - 19-01-2017, 05:17 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by bluzark - 19-01-2017, 05:33 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by MatthewO - 19-01-2017, 06:52 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Beeflips - 19-01-2017, 07:23 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Malong - 19-01-2017, 07:53 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Beeflips - 19-01-2017, 08:21 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Malong - 19-01-2017, 08:32 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Bobo - 19-01-2017, 07:52 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Looter - 19-01-2017, 10:47 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Winter - 20-01-2017, 05:56 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by MatthewO - 20-01-2017, 05:47 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Kip - 20-01-2017, 06:15 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Malong - 20-01-2017, 06:28 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Bobo - 20-01-2017, 08:12 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Billy M8 - 20-01-2017, 06:26 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Looter - 20-01-2017, 06:50 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Kip - 20-01-2017, 07:04 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Bobo - 20-01-2017, 05:02 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Malong - 21-01-2017, 08:11 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Disco - 20-01-2017, 09:59 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Bobo - 21-01-2017, 08:44 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Bobo - 21-01-2017, 01:39 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Skan - 22-01-2017, 10:19 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Malong - 22-01-2017, 10:55 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Looter - 22-01-2017, 11:02 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Mr.Peso - 22-01-2017, 11:16 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Malong - 22-01-2017, 11:18 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Looter - 22-01-2017, 11:28 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Malong - 22-01-2017, 11:37 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Tjav - 22-01-2017, 11:33 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Looter - 22-01-2017, 11:40 PM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Malong - 23-01-2017, 12:11 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Looter - 23-01-2017, 12:38 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Malong - 23-01-2017, 01:11 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by DR. - 23-01-2017, 01:12 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Looter - 23-01-2017, 01:23 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Malong - 23-01-2017, 01:55 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Malong - 23-01-2017, 02:24 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Looter - 23-01-2017, 02:21 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Malong - 23-01-2017, 02:38 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Looter - 23-01-2017, 02:51 AM
RE: selling ni stuff for real money - by Malong - 23-01-2017, 04:33 PM



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