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Class balance
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Whats your take on the class balance of this current version of Nordinvasion? Personally (altough this is more of a Community thing than class based) i Think that the infantry has been reduced in usefullness, many runs have i played where the whole emphasis is based on building a wall cade and let the Archers and other ranged classes bombard the nords (wich often die long Before they reach the cade) and the infanty stands idle, perhaps asked to shield or slash when the barricade eventually falls.

Other than that, i Think it works fine. Whats your thoughts?
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(14-03-2017, 06:47 AM)oracolus Wrote: Whats your take on the class balance of this current version of Nordinvasion? Personally (altough this is more of a Community thing than class based) i Think that the infantry has been reduced in usefullness, many runs have i played where the whole emphasis is based on building a wall cade and let the Archers and other ranged classes bombard the nords (wich often die long Before they reach the cade) and the infanty stands idle, perhaps asked to shield or slash when the barricade eventually falls.

Other than that, i Think it works fine. Whats your thoughts?
I think you'll find that the teams adopting this strategy, often lack the well-geared Infantry required to maintain a shield wall.
(14-03-2017, 06:47 AM)oracolus Wrote: i Think it works fine.
This sums up my opinion pretty well.
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(14-03-2017, 06:47 AM)oracolus Wrote: ...infantry has been reduced in usefullness, many runs have i played where the whole emphasis is based on building a wall cade and let the Archers and other ranged classes bombard the nords (wich often die long Before they reach the cade)

Works mostly on begginer-normal servers, due to overpowered players with legendaries.


Quote:and the infanty stands idle, perhaps asked to shield or slash when the barricade eventually falls.

Well, playing as infantry in a shieldwall isnt the funniest thing to do aswell, so...
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(14-03-2017, 10:17 AM)Narvad Wrote:
(14-03-2017, 06:47 AM)oracolus Wrote: ...infantry has been reduced in usefullness, many runs have i played where the whole emphasis is based on building a wall cade and let the Archers and other ranged classes bombard the nords (wich often die long Before they reach the cade)

Works mostly on begginer-normal servers, due to overpowered players with legendaries.


Quote:and the infanty stands idle, perhaps asked to shield or slash when the barricade eventually falls.

Well, playing as infantry in a shieldwall isnt the funniest thing to do aswell, so...
I will add more xbow points to the zwei and Rg heros , that way they will be more useful when no shielder or slasher is needed. (Legio already have thrown skill)
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(14-03-2017, 11:22 AM)paski Wrote: I will add more xbow points to the zwei and Rg heros , that way they will be more useful when no shielder or slasher is needed. (Legio already have thrown skill)

Then left to find a zwei or rg which will waste 2 equipment slots to carry crossbow and bolts.
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(14-03-2017, 11:56 AM)Narvad Wrote:
(14-03-2017, 11:22 AM)paski Wrote: I will add more xbow points to the zwei and Rg heros , that way they will be more useful when no shielder or slasher is needed. (Legio already have thrown skill)

Then left to find a zwei or rg which will waste 2 equipment slots to carry crossbow and bolts.

True
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I don't see a point in making infantry being able to bring crossbow. If you want a character shooting crossbow just make a sharpshooter. Infantry has its own abilities that are melee and shield based. You could also not make Zwei or RG and just make a Legio if you want to play ranged. It's 100% up to you, so don't ask for boosts on infantry heroes :p
But you have a point on their role. Shielders and slashers are almost useless in cade meta. Both RG and Zwei are good on few maps, but it isn't enough for them to be used as much as other classes. I don't know what can be changed but I hope it won't be same as it is, just because I don't enjoy having people leeching and saying they don't have anything to do (usually they don't even want to heal, and feel offended if asked to). That's just my opinion. 
P.S. I don't play infantry :d
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With the current wealth of players and amount of support items (especially walls) the need for shielder disappears on hard mode and even on some good maps on ragnarok. However, noone makes you to choose and play commando, it is up to you.
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(14-03-2017, 12:51 PM)PioPio Wrote: I don't see a point in making infantry being able to bring crossbow. If you want a character shooting crossbow just make a sharpshooter. Infantry has its own abilities that are melee and shield based. You could also not make Zwei or RG and just make a Legio if you want to play ranged. It's 100% up to you, so don't ask for boosts on infantry heroes :p
But you have a point on their role. Shielders and slashers are almost useless in cade meta. Both RG and Zwei are good on few maps, but it isn't enough for them to be used as much as other classes. I don't know what can be changed but I hope it won't be same as it is, just because I don't enjoy having people leeching and saying they don't have anything to do (usually they don't even want to heal, and feel offended if asked to). That's just my opinion. 
P.S. I don't play infantry :d
I am not asking for a big boost just about 20 points more or something like that. Btw making cav better would make infantry classes more popular than now
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(14-03-2017, 01:19 PM)paski Wrote:
(14-03-2017, 12:51 PM)PioPio Wrote: I don't see a point in making infantry being able to bring crossbow. If you want a character shooting crossbow just make a sharpshooter. Infantry has its own abilities that are melee and shield based. You could also not make Zwei or RG and just make a Legio if you want to play ranged. It's 100% up to you, so don't ask for boosts on infantry heroes :p
But you have a point on their role. Shielders and slashers are almost useless in cade meta. Both RG and Zwei are good on few maps, but it isn't enough for them to be used as much as other classes. I don't know what can be changed but I hope it won't be same as it is, just because I don't enjoy having people leeching and saying they don't have anything to do (usually they don't even want to heal, and feel offended if asked to). That's just my opinion. 
P.S. I don't play infantry :d
I am not asking for a big boost just about 20 points more or something like that. Btw making cav better would make infantry classes more popular than now
 As I said infantry should be doing "infantry stuff" not shooting with crossbow (unfortunately they are forced to do so). Making them better at xbows won't fix the problem (there is a class for that!) They are still working on cav I think, you have to understand that's not as easy as it seems.
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