17-02-2014, 12:11 PM
*madjosh swoops in with a match in hand*
some good points made but...
1) in regards to your first post on faulting people and what not, well, i have to say that i hate it when someone with a dep shield and marketplace gear joins a rag server. but that said i cant fault them. this is the behaviour that is the result of leniency in level reqs for rag...there is a differance between fault and hate
2)yes the loot system requires the overhall that we have been anticipating but we must first look at why the tricksters have retreated into their tight knit group. for example a player sneaked into their ts learnt the password to their event and "stole" a legendary after joining on wave 16. hell i'd be royally pissed off if that happened to me but the examples don't stop there. i have personally seen afkers sitting in the back after killing last before thor AND odin loot durendals and fell edges (also having no kills or performing support roles etc). do they deserver legendaries? sure there may be instances where people overreact when some loots something but alas that is human nature however the tricksters have more reason to than most complain about loots despite their recent luck.
3)support class is extremely important in ragnarok and i think we can all agree it would be nice to see a support req added as well.
4) on your topic of drops i agree with you more than anyone but i wholeheartedly believe that it is not just the way in which items are awarded that needs a fix but also the amount of items being rewarded. atm the green drops i and others who i have talked to on both rag and hard have been almost insulting for the time and effort put in and i think the loot needs a significant buff in terms of green drops (don't turn this into a discussion about legendaries)
4) in response to your last topic i cant say i whole heartedly agree and i too have been the culprit of picking and choosing the team i want for public runs. however, does it make it wrong that i wish to play with my friends and members of my house rather than someone i have never met before let alone someone who has never made the effort to meet me? it is human nature to form groups and friendships. it would be going against logical thought to pick a randomer over a friend who you can talk and organise with over TS,skype etc unless you're friend is complete crap at the game. i believe it would be completely immoral to force people to cut out their friends and play with a stranger when they could be playing that same game with a friend (albeit this must be done with traditional methods i.e. not kicking randoms out of a server etc)
to conclude, i wrote this post to give a 3rd opinion on the matters raised here. i like both players and i play with both players constantly. both have raised good arguments and are entitled their own opinions as we all are. i do not mean to infringe on either s opinions just to offer clarity on the matters at hand.
p.s. more loot is the solution to all!!!!!!!!!!!!
some good points made but...
1) in regards to your first post on faulting people and what not, well, i have to say that i hate it when someone with a dep shield and marketplace gear joins a rag server. but that said i cant fault them. this is the behaviour that is the result of leniency in level reqs for rag...there is a differance between fault and hate
2)yes the loot system requires the overhall that we have been anticipating but we must first look at why the tricksters have retreated into their tight knit group. for example a player sneaked into their ts learnt the password to their event and "stole" a legendary after joining on wave 16. hell i'd be royally pissed off if that happened to me but the examples don't stop there. i have personally seen afkers sitting in the back after killing last before thor AND odin loot durendals and fell edges (also having no kills or performing support roles etc). do they deserver legendaries? sure there may be instances where people overreact when some loots something but alas that is human nature however the tricksters have more reason to than most complain about loots despite their recent luck.
3)support class is extremely important in ragnarok and i think we can all agree it would be nice to see a support req added as well.
4) on your topic of drops i agree with you more than anyone but i wholeheartedly believe that it is not just the way in which items are awarded that needs a fix but also the amount of items being rewarded. atm the green drops i and others who i have talked to on both rag and hard have been almost insulting for the time and effort put in and i think the loot needs a significant buff in terms of green drops (don't turn this into a discussion about legendaries)
4) in response to your last topic i cant say i whole heartedly agree and i too have been the culprit of picking and choosing the team i want for public runs. however, does it make it wrong that i wish to play with my friends and members of my house rather than someone i have never met before let alone someone who has never made the effort to meet me? it is human nature to form groups and friendships. it would be going against logical thought to pick a randomer over a friend who you can talk and organise with over TS,skype etc unless you're friend is complete crap at the game. i believe it would be completely immoral to force people to cut out their friends and play with a stranger when they could be playing that same game with a friend (albeit this must be done with traditional methods i.e. not kicking randoms out of a server etc)
to conclude, i wrote this post to give a 3rd opinion on the matters raised here. i like both players and i play with both players constantly. both have raised good arguments and are entitled their own opinions as we all are. i do not mean to infringe on either s opinions just to offer clarity on the matters at hand.
p.s. more loot is the solution to all!!!!!!!!!!!!