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(17-02-2014, 09:31 PM)Spirit link Wrote: I am sorry, but I personally think this is bad form.  This is server manipulation in order to get in the people you want.. as you freely admit to here yourself.  Just because you have 16 people in your TS does not mean you can guarantee them all a spot.  Each house gets 2 events per week.  Only in events can you control who occupies those spots on a server.
By definition of others joining the server, we are not controlling the spots on the server nor manipulating it in any way. All we do is try again, which wouldn't be necessary if it was true circumvention or manipulation. If you want to relegate us to a fixed number of events per period of time, then you are stifling impromptu playing. At this stage of the game, can't we just play with the e-friends we enjoy spending leisure time with?

(17-02-2014, 09:31 PM)Spirit link Wrote: Your analogy is off.  You don't pay the Janitors. Your employer does. But since you raise it, let me add to it...
You're right, I don't, and they already get their wages (assist XP and gold). I was implying giving them additional pay on top of that.

(17-02-2014, 10:34 AM)Spirit link Wrote: I stated before that you typically do target empty servers and coordinate the join such that other do not see it in time to actually join before it is full.  However, in this latest report, there is clear evidence that some people joined the server, sat in spec, and went as far as to say that others should "stay in hard and let the good players have the Ragnarok" (or something to that effect).

While you may not have been part of that activity, you as an officer of your house must lead by example.  If you regularly condone or even promote such activities, then you must bear the responsibility of being held accountable for the actions of said house and all its members/affiliates/followers.
They were in the server, the map changed due to a wipe, they were AFK when spawning (which you are allowed to do for 5 minutes or 2 waves), so they missed the spawn. The rest of the team did not pass the spawn wave, so there was no spawn delaying. This does not generate extra bots, and they nor other people who would subsequently join the server would spawn anyway (no spawn wave reached, not able to be tomed). And the only person who typed anything like that is not even in my house. Look at the evidence: they did nothing to harm the progress of the players on the server, and the sole in-game chat offender is not even in Tricksters.

(17-02-2014, 09:31 PM)Spirit link Wrote: Your "contingency", as I stated above, is server manipulation.  If even a single one of your selected group fail to get onto the server you target, then you all leave, target a different server, or wait for the server to go empty again, and then again coordinate your join - as you once again freely admit here.  Every run cannot be a controlled "event" where only the people you want are allowed to play.  That is not the intent of PUBLIC servers.
If you saw the screenshot from a public run on Saturday where Nanja got a legendary (from wave 17), you can clearly see six names (far more than "even a single one of [my] selected group") amongst the death spam that do not play with "my group" yet all the players stayed (and beat Odin). This disproves your claim, and is as recent as two days ago.

(17-02-2014, 10:34 AM)Spirit link Wrote: In regards to INDIVIDUAL players leaving a server to avoid confrontation, then yes.. it is absolutely a good thing to do.  However, if an entire group of people intentionally manipulate the servers to monopolize them to the exclusion of everyone but their select few, then that should not be allowed.
This does not create a monopoly on the servers. There are four public Ragnarok servers, and no time when 64-68 concurrent players are playing Ragnarok. If you are trying to say that everyone must only play with other players, then there is no precedent for that. Just because one or more player leaves a server does not mean the remaining cannot stay and play.
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Ragnarok requirement level - by Lord_Bristo - 15-02-2014, 04:22 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by [ASSASSINE] - 15-02-2014, 04:57 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by madjsoh - 15-02-2014, 05:08 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Lord_Bristo - 15-02-2014, 05:46 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Sir_Mike - 15-02-2014, 06:05 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Maroon - 16-02-2014, 05:48 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Malong - 16-02-2014, 09:07 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by madjsoh - 17-02-2014, 10:05 AM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Spirit - 17-02-2014, 10:34 AM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by madjsoh - 17-02-2014, 12:11 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Malong - 17-02-2014, 04:10 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Darkfire6 - 17-02-2014, 04:53 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Maroon - 17-02-2014, 05:25 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Winter - 17-02-2014, 07:14 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by FH_Hawkens - 17-02-2014, 07:22 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Malong - 17-02-2014, 07:46 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Spirit - 17-02-2014, 09:31 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Malong - 17-02-2014, 10:25 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Malong - 17-02-2014, 10:27 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by bossculeur - 17-02-2014, 10:53 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Malong - 17-02-2014, 11:05 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by bossculeur - 17-02-2014, 11:27 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Malong - 17-02-2014, 11:42 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by madjsoh - 18-02-2014, 08:46 AM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Spirit - 18-02-2014, 12:22 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Malong - 18-02-2014, 04:58 PM
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Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Malong - 18-02-2014, 06:21 PM
Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by Suns - 19-02-2014, 02:18 AM
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Re: Ragnarok requirement level - by madjsoh - 19-02-2014, 04:50 AM
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