21-03-2014, 06:46 PM
Updated the guide with some points regarding situation analysis and toming.
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we're talking about pub teams...i have seen and been in 4 hour rag runs on maps such as coastel raid, swadian temple FUS the list goes on
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Madjosh, he did say "good" teams :
I agree that some maps do take longer than others. To take 4 hours on a Rag run on maps like Coastal Raid, Swadian Temple, and FUS would more likely be a problem of team motivation than anything else. If you spent three or four minutes between each tome during preparations for Thor or Odin, your run will take a while. If your players aren't taking risks, that's more time you spend on the same wave.
Though yes, pub teams do suffer the most from these problems of inefficiency. But it's not only pub teams that can have these issues. I've seen teams in private events where five or more members in the run would be standing around doing nothing while we prepared for Thor or Odin unless asked specifically. And these are runs with the same group of players who have done it dozens of times. Of course, it may also boil down to whether or not the players are motivated or not. What should be done during any particular wave is well-established yet these runs are still afflicted with inefficiency.
(20-03-2014, 09:06 PM)madjosh link Wrote: [quote author=human_being link=topic=24420.msg170874#msg170874 date=1395322492]No good team needs 4 hrs for a rag run. That's just not true.
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you forgot to add the part about siphoning through 70% (maybe 80% now) of the maps which take 3-4 hours to complete no matter how efficient the team is and that your better off flipping the map in order to optimise run efficiency
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we're talking about pub teams...i have seen and been in 4 hour rag runs on maps such as coastel raid, swadian temple FUS the list goes on
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Madjosh, he did say "good" teams :
I agree that some maps do take longer than others. To take 4 hours on a Rag run on maps like Coastal Raid, Swadian Temple, and FUS would more likely be a problem of team motivation than anything else. If you spent three or four minutes between each tome during preparations for Thor or Odin, your run will take a while. If your players aren't taking risks, that's more time you spend on the same wave. Though yes, pub teams do suffer the most from these problems of inefficiency. But it's not only pub teams that can have these issues. I've seen teams in private events where five or more members in the run would be standing around doing nothing while we prepared for Thor or Odin unless asked specifically. And these are runs with the same group of players who have done it dozens of times. Of course, it may also boil down to whether or not the players are motivated or not. What should be done during any particular wave is well-established yet these runs are still afflicted with inefficiency.
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