25-08-2015, 09:53 AM
(25-08-2015, 06:45 AM)Malong link Wrote: [quote author=Ribbed link=topic=45644.msg240324#msg240324 date=1440475756]You neglect to mention that the Chosen walked through the shield wall gaps and hit the shielders and interrupt ranged, which lends credence to this from the previous post:
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I feel like arguing, we nearly wiped due to the shielders being out of range of healers, not due to a lack of strength of any class
(24-08-2015, 05:02 PM)Malong link Wrote: [T]hink of the factors that enable kills: a shield wall allowing ranged to hit bots with no danger outside of peeking
Therefore for ranged dps classes to reach their potential, they have to not be interrupted. This follows the classic RPG paradigm where ranged dps classes have to be uninterrupted to be particularly useful. Even when one or two Chosen walk through the shield wall, it falls apart. If a class is reliant on multiple contributions of other players and factors, then by definition, it's not overpowered.
I also notice you chose not to respond to my other points, and will take that as your concessions to those points.
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Well going by this definition - the reintroduction of kiting would make ranged overpowered.
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What? The factors that enable ranged to reach their potential is the presence of shield walls that prevent ranged from being attacked and interrupted altogether. That's the complete opposite of kiting an open area where pathing, timing, judgment of distance, fast aiming, etc all have to be taken into account to prevent interruption instead of mindlessly shooting behind some meat shields.
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Kiting is acceptable as long as the archer isn't able to make the necessary space required to spin-shot repeatedly. This is easily countered by reducing all player's run speed to compensate.
Sure, you might be able to kite for as long as a commando can block 20 bots, but any party finding themselves in that position is going to wipe soon, regardless.
There's currently ZERO incentive to stand there with a shield, occasionally switching to the 2nd or 3rd shield held in inventory... other than some sycophantic access to a House's goodies.