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Poll: Should this item remain class locked?
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Yes, the Hero lock should remain
32.50%
13 32.50%
No, the Hero lock should be removed
62.50%
25 62.50%
The Valsgarde is a symbol of NordInvasion: remove the Hero lock, but have it remain the best helmet
5.00%
2 5.00%
Total 40 vote(s) 100%
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Valsgarde Helmet
#28
Exactly, I paid like EFS + Hurricane for mine, that's like 60m+ at the moment. Having it moved to Jugger annoyed me since I don't have that class, nor I'm interested in having a 4th Infantry class. Only reason I was still calm about it was cause I had un-updated RG that could still wear one, or else I'd make drama about it long time ago.

Now, I don't know what best solution for this can be, I can only see a few options. (Might even need to make a new poll for this Winter)

First I'll point out all helmets stats so we can have an overview.
Gothic/Fearsome/Knight: 70 (All)
Grifon: 71 (Legio)
Dragon/Winged: 72 (Zwei) 
Royal Helmet: 74 (Royal Guard)
Defender Helmet: 76 (Juggernaut)

Now, by the main item rules, "all-hero" helmets should not have higher stats than 1-lock heros. That's understandable and Valsgarde would have to be at 70 head armour. But error in this is, it would feel "shit" knowing how awesome it looks. 

Option1:
So, if we wanna follow that rule, then we'd have to either move it somewhere else where it fits more, like Royal Guard, changing it from 76 to 74 head armour having it as equal to Royal Helmet, I'd accept that fate, but I'd never accept Royal Helmet being better than Valsgarde (personal opinion, that I know most agrees on). And to not make people upset who own Valsgarde on Juggers they could have an option to change it to Defender Helmet if they want maybe.

Option2:
Making an exception for this helmet, since it's the Symbol of NI, and give it 77 head armour, and maintain it being The Best over-all heros since it fits on about almost every armour. And those who exchanged one with the devs for another helmet, could have an option to exchange it back maybe?

Option3:
Setting it in-between, such as 72, 73, 75. Tho I'd see a few errors in this option tho so not sure it'd be a good one. 

72 = I'd be all-heros but that'll mean Grifon gets pushed back while Royal Helmet and Defender doesn't and it equals Zwei Helmets which doesn't really feel correct.
73 = I'd be all-heros but that'll mean Grifon and all Zwei helmets gets pushed back while Royal Helmet and Defender doesn't. (If anything I'd pick this option) 
75 = This one would probably need a RG-Jugger Lock, and it'd be better than all helmets other than Defender Helmet which doesn't really feel correct.

So overall if you'd go for Option3, I'd say due to values of helmets 73 would be most reasonable one, tho it'd still feel a little "shitty" that Royal and Defender are better.

Option4:
Keep it as it is. Valsgarde remains "The Best" in stats, but if we want it we have to make a new Hero. (which sucks cause it fits much better with armours like Imperial or halfplates etc. Tongue)


Here's my view on things, and I'd pick either Option1 or 2. Reason for number 1 is mostly cause it really looks good with imperials and it pains me it's not available for them and I'd not want stats to be lower in order for me to be able to use it on RG.
And for option 2 I'd go cause I'd hate to see anything else superior to the helmet in any way since it's a Symbol item of NI that looks absolutely amazing and should not be under-valued. 


Regards,
Nka19
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Messages In This Thread
Valsgarde Helmet - by Winter - 26-01-2018, 01:30 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Nka19 - 26-01-2018, 02:29 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by PioPio - 26-01-2018, 02:35 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Winter - 26-01-2018, 02:39 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Irolltwenties - 26-01-2018, 02:43 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by PioPio - 26-01-2018, 02:54 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Winter - 26-01-2018, 03:25 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Malong - 26-01-2018, 04:00 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Winter - 26-01-2018, 04:03 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Malong - 26-01-2018, 04:11 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Disco - 26-01-2018, 04:16 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Nka19 - 26-01-2018, 08:30 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Jalau - 26-01-2018, 05:54 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by DR. - 26-01-2018, 08:29 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by DR. - 26-01-2018, 08:40 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Disco - 26-01-2018, 08:47 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by DR. - 26-01-2018, 09:28 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Winter - 28-01-2018, 08:07 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Angar - 28-01-2018, 10:56 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by DR. - 28-01-2018, 11:17 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Winter - 28-01-2018, 07:11 PM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Nka19 - 28-01-2018, 09:04 PM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Odi - 28-01-2018, 08:13 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by DR. - 28-01-2018, 09:19 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by [ASSASSINE] - 28-01-2018, 11:38 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by DR. - 28-01-2018, 11:50 AM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by [ASSASSINE] - 28-01-2018, 01:36 PM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Thunderstorm - 28-01-2018, 04:03 PM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by [ASSASSINE] - 28-01-2018, 05:12 PM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Nka19 - 28-01-2018, 05:15 PM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Irolltwenties - 28-01-2018, 06:31 PM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Thunderstorm - 28-01-2018, 06:34 PM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Coconut - 28-01-2018, 07:14 PM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Disco - 28-01-2018, 07:19 PM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by DR. - 28-01-2018, 11:56 PM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Irolltwenties - 28-01-2018, 09:28 PM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Nka19 - 28-01-2018, 10:52 PM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Irolltwenties - 28-01-2018, 11:01 PM
RE: Valsgarde Helmet - by Winter - 29-01-2018, 04:40 AM



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