New concept of archers

[DR.]

Had people ask what was the idea for Jugg and Halb so I may as well post them here. Sorry, I'm not on the main topic so ill keep it only on this post.

 
Jugg

1st idea

The idea I had at the start of the year was to bite the bullet and move all the bastard stuff to Jugg then give that line up a small buff.

The end result would work but to get to that is we have some problems. 

1. If you give people the opinion to trade for something they can use how long do you keep that window open for --> Ab to Dur or Mortifer || Moj to Byrllysg or Mercy. Note at the time of the idea Byrllysg and Mercy was not even a thing.

2. You have people like Terath that like using bastard weapons on other heroes

I'm not partial to locking all bastard weapons to this class, especially because I love using bastard weapons not on Juggernaut. If anything, they would get their own line of bastard weapons instead of moving more stuff around.

The Idea for Jugg came to making a new type of bastard weapon and I landed on the idea of you move only 1 item ingame to Jugg that being Morningstar. 



If you have not used it it's the only weapon of its kind in Ni as it's not [C] or [B.] it's [P].

Full Guess Work

My points of reference are Moj, Dwp, Torch and Morningstar so its full guesswork here but the stats of a red Morningstar for Jugg would be about this I think. 

2h
Weight 8
Speed rating 99
Weapon length 95
Swing damage 54p
-Crushthrough

1h
Weight 8
Speed rating 95
Weapon length 95
Swing damage 50p
-Crushthrough


Having Crushthrough on the 1h would be fun

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Halb

1st idea

The idea I had at the start of the year was to bite the bullet and move all the bastard stuff to Halb then give that line up a small buff.

The end result would work but to get to that is we have some big problems. 

1. If you give people the opinion to trade for something they can use how long do you keep that window open for --> Pok to Navel or Jorm.
2. You have people like Terath and even Me that like using bastard weapons on other heroes
3. What happens to Dragon Spear, Thunder Pike, Sun Pike, Etc...

Terath does have an Idea that would be... what's the word... complex? Lots of work...? I'll let him say it if he wants to. 

I came up with this one last night so this will be new to all. Like how the Jugg and the Ranger weapons do something new this should be unique if we can find away. 

Mara has crush through so I don't think that's the buff. You do have Unbalanced but I'm still not even 100% sure how it works. Now making a spear with knockdown that would be cool.

Guess Work

My points of reference are Moj, Ironsong and Pok so its still guesswork here.

Slash
Weight 4
Speed rating 92
Weapon length 150
Swing damage 53b
Thrust damage 48b
-Knockdown

Poke
Weight 4
Speed rating 92
Weapon length 150
Thrust damage 48b
-Knockdown


Having Knockdown on the poke mode would be fun