Oh, those rascally barrels!

[Maroon]

So: 1% Chance= 100 Kills for 1 Legandary

I beg to differ. Six rolls of the dice doesn't mean you'll get a 6 once.
Given you want 1 legendary, and you try to get one 100 times, with a 1% chance, the actual chance of getting one is 37%, with a 36.6% chance of getting no legendaries, and a 24.6% chance of getting 2-100 legendaries.

[Winter]

Okay, guys, this is a discussion on barrels, not on drop chance.  Keep it relevant.  If you want to complain about drop chances, PM some developers and see where that gets you

[Jalau]

Personaly i dont like it nearly impossible! So you are playing this mod for 1 month?! I'm playing it 1 1/2 years and you done 100~ Hardmode runs, i done 1500 ~, and believe me or not for the firts runs you think it mighz be better if it would be harder, but after 300 ~ runs you dont wanna die at loke 299 times It should be hard but one Thor run every day needs to be possible... If not its after 300 times boring! I love to be excited before Thor and want so see the hole NI world, not just Loke...
I loved when my team and me beated Thor for the first time after the Explosive Mjolnir patch It was amazing, and one the second day, we were killed by Odins Gugnir! I dont think we need to kill them, just to reach them is a AMAZING feeling...

[WheresMyVodka]

Personaly i dont like it nearly impossible! So you are playing this mod for 1 month?! I'm playing it 1 1/2 years and you done 100~ Hardmode runs, i done 1500 ~, and believe me or not for the firts runs you think it mighz be better if it would be harder, but after 300 ~ runs you dont wanna die at loke 299 times It should be hard but one Thor run every day needs to be possible... If not its after 300 times boring! I love to be excited before Thor and want so see the hole NI world, not just Loke...
I loved when my team and me beated Thor for the first time after the Explosive Mjolnir patch It was amazing, and one the second day, we were killed by Odins Gugnir! I dont think we need to kill them, just to reach them is a AMAZING feeling...

same here back to barrel talk

[Sir_Eldras]

My suggestions :

1) Add an expensive new engineering item in the game, for example a metal heavy barricade (large, high and tough) as an other option for rich players, consequently there will be fewer barrels per game [and fewer crash, while we are at it]

I'm fully on board with this idea. It could be metal reinforced, like Yvain mentioned, or maybe even like a placeable stone wall (easy to model/texture.)

[clickeverywhere]

As for Sphinx's percentile-based damage barrel idea, you don't need full HP bots to wipe a team. From what I hear, higher waves of hard mode have crushthrough, so even if they are at 1% HP they can likely wreck a shield wall without issue. Non-lethal barrels won't necessarily leave you with a chance to attack the enemy. Of course, I don't know how people have adapted to the current hard mode, so I may be wrong.

[BGuardian]

Just an Idea, not sure if it's already been mentioned but what if barrels took say 80%(if not somewhere between 50 and 80) of the bots CURRENT health so they could never kill them, only reduce their health. So if a bot had 10 health it would take 8 of that away and then another would take 1 away.

[Tee]

Just an Idea, not sure if it's already been mentioned but what if barrels took say 80%(if not somewhere between 50 and 80) of the bots CURRENT health so they could never kill them, only reduce their health. So if a bot had 10 health it would take 8 of that away and then another would take 1 away.

I really don't like any of these percentage based ideas. You could just use "x" number of barrels to weaken the bots to an easy level, then kill them with 1 hit and gain tons of loot and xp with little effort.
Whereas with the current set up, you have to weigh up the chance of wiping to difficult waves with the chance of getting some nice loot from them

The only thing that would be nice is if we could see who hits barrels, but other than that, I like the current balance - it's as balanced as it's ever going to be

[BGuardian]

[quote author=BGuardian link=topic=12327.msg101951#msg101951 date=1367147988]
Just an Idea, not sure if it's already been mentioned but what if barrels took say 80%(if not somewhere between 50 and 80) of the bots CURRENT health so they could never kill them, only reduce their health. So if a bot had 10 health it would take 8 of that away and then another would take 1 away.

I really don't like any of these percentage based ideas. You could just use "x" number of barrels to weaken the bots to an easy level, then kill them with 1 hit and gain tons of loot and xp with little effort.
Whereas with the current set up, you have to weigh up the chance of wiping to difficult waves with the chance of getting some nice loot from them

The only thing that would be nice is if we could see who hits barrels, but other than that, I like the current balance - it's as balanced as it's ever going to be
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I do like the current set up but I thought if it were to change this might be a nice idea, and seeing who hit the barrels would be sweet.