Shield Stat Tweaks/Buff Swadian Resilience

[Harlaus]

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Cut Weapon

Aegis Shield
high: 100.3
low: 90.27
Min damage: 9.486
Max damage: 12.4
Range of hits 108 -  142


Resilience
high: 100.3
low: 90.27
Min damage: 13.674
Max damage: 17.2
Range of hits 81 -  102


Studded Kite Shield
high: 100.3
low: 90.27
Min damage: 7.5
Max damage: 10.0
Range of hits 120 -  160


Dragon kite shield
high: 100.3
low: 90.27
Min damage: 12.246
Max damage: 15.6
Range of hits 80 -  102


Blunt Weapon

Aegis Shield
high: 100.3
low: 90.27
Min damage: 21.829375
Max damage: 26.5
Range of hits 50 -  61


Resilience
high: 100.3
low: 90.27
Min damage: 24.964375
Max damage: 29.5
Range of hits 47 -  56


Studded Kite Shield
high: 100.3
low: 90.27
Min damage: 20.3125
Max damage: 25.0
Range of hits 48 -  59


Dragon kite shield
high: 100.3
low: 90.27
Min damage: 23.904375
Max damage: 28.5
Range of hits 43 -  52


Pierce weapon

Aegis Shield
high: 100.3
low: 90.27
Min damage: 17.164625
Max damage: 19.45
Range of hits 69 -  78


Resilience
high: 100.3
low: 90.27
Min damage: 20.956625
Max damage: 23.35
Range of hits 59 -  66


Studded Kite Shield
high: 100.3
low: 90.27
Min damage: 15.3125
Max damage: 17.5
Range of hits 68 -  78


Dragon kite shield
high: 100.3
low: 90.27
Min damage: 19.679625
Max damage: 22.05
Range of hits 56 -  63

*Studded Kite shield = Studded Steel Shield, apologies.
Some things to consider:
1) All were calculated with 50 base damage, 30 strength, 8 powerstrike, and 180 weapon proficiency
2) Resilience performs 3rd best against pierce weapons, 3rd best against blunt weapons, and 3rd best against Cut weapons.
3) In all cases the Dragon kite shield comes in 4th, it is objectively the worst of them all, though no one ever complains about that.
4) Bonus against shields, as mentioned, simply doubles the damage after armor, so all these numbers need only be halved to calculate hits with bonus against shields.
5) Aegis shield takes overall first place, losing only against cut weapons. This is perfectly fine as it is the Shielding hero exclusive, as Winter said.
6) I have not calculated it, but I don't doubt the Royal shield beats the Resilience, this is either because the royal shield is too strong, or because the Resilience and Dragon kite shield are too weak. The second explanation is probably the more correct one.

As to what can be done to correct this, I am positive those in charge of balance have considered much and done the best they can, and the result will probably be satisfactory.

[Sosruko]

^ Nice work Harlaus!

[Yvain]

Yep, nice work.
greekdragonkdl, use the Warband wiki with care as everything is not always 100% correct (It's sometimes explained simply).

Swadian Resilience Stats:
Resistance(body armor): 41
Hit points: 1400
Speed: 89
Shield Height: 70
Weapon length: 35

Royal Shield Stats:
Resistance(body armor): 45
Hit points: 1250
Speed: 90
Shield Height: 50
Weapon length: 30

You mentioned that yourself, but you don't say a word about this !? Why would the Swadian Resilience need a buff because of the number of hits it takes to destroy it, whereas its height and width are much better ? The matter is the same for the Tower shield.
Size does not matter a lot at melee, but a lot of shielders die because of Rangers shooting arrows on their head/feet the shield can't cover, you should remember that.

Though I'm not against a standardisation of the shield resistances. But from what has been said in this topic= I believe it is only a light matter.

[Sargent Q]

I have had the Resilience for 2 days now and i have already got shot in the head with it up yesterday.  Also about the Dragon kite shield i have never seen that one in game.

[greekdragonkdl]

Much better to have a medium size shield that lasts longer before breaking than a large shield that breaks easy. And my quote about the bonus about shield modifier being incorrect only furthers my point. That means the resilience is behind both the aegis and royal in pretty much all cases.

I'm fine with the shield not being as good as aegis or royal, but if so, it shouldn't cost as much. Why have items in game that cost the same with only two ever really crafted due to stats. As Q said nobody makes dragon kite shields. There should be some sort of incentive to craft a shield like that, whether it be cost, stats, or usability by multiple classes or tiers